Haven't posted here in a long while, and can't find my old posts, so I'll summarize:<p>Married 1988
2 kids: 8 and 10
Divorce filed 8/00 and served 11/00, still pending.<p>W not "in love" (the usual); wants to move on with her life. No affairs; grew apart; lots of little issues that became larger than life; loss of trust.<p>Have tried applying MB and DB principles for a long while, though imperfectly I'm sure.<p>W remains resolute, bullheaded, etc.<p>Says she's too far gone; she's no longer on the "brink" of divorce, but is way beyond that, and can't get back what she's lost for me. Won't even try - I just can't understand that.<p>Court isn't likely to wait much longer.<p>I know only I can judge when to give up, but this is one of those (many) times when I've felt like throwing in the towel. Would be easier to do if it weren't for the kids.<p>I've finally set up a joint counseling session (and we may finally talk with our minister too). . . but of course our agendas are very different. W only wants to talk about parenting time, etc., while I still think we should repair the relationship. She might just walk out when we get there, for all I can predict. Very bullheaded. <p>Can someone really be brought back when they're that far gone? How?<p>Any thoughts are appreciated.

I wish I had an answer for you. I think I can say that there can always be a little hope, but when keeping that little hope interferes with your sanity it is time to let go.
Elizabeth