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#727794 05/23/02 07:17 AM
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There is so much going on that is not good...like the rest of you on D/D board my spouse has left me for OP. There are money troubles and emotional rollercoasters and all the rest.<p>When I read the terrible stories here I nearly fall apart these days. So much pain, so much misery. Children abandoned by parents; husbands and wives abandoned by their spouses; People becoming emotional wrecks because they have NO idea how to handle all that is happening to them.<p>I am becoming numb and my spirit is coming apart. My beautiful, once wonderful, wife is gone and moved on and every time I think i am over it, I get knocked down again.<p>We are all getting knocked down. The people here with children, their stories break my heart the most. The Hospital thread is a super killer for me for some reason.<p>I have no more strength left. Doing a job I hate with all of my soul, living a life I hate with all my soul, feeling my soul being crushed by loneliness and despair...........how do we get through this?<p>I am all out of answers.<p>off to work
bye for now,
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Hey vb,<p>the pain really is incredible sometimes, no? hard to believe that such a sacred and beautiful commitment can be ruined to no more than a signature on a 10 cent piece of paper held by an over-paid lawyer.<p>vb, it's time to get proactive. time to get a new job if you hate it w/ all your soul! time to fill your days w/ new and exciting things! time to be the man you know is in there somewhere.<p>when I'm felling down and desparate, it REALLY has helped me to just close my eyes and imagine how worse life could be and how lucky I really am to have a job, roof, food, car. seems our mind does a great job of not being satisfied sometimes, and you gotta remind it.<p>keep posting. write down your feelings. and write down your dreams. write it down and get it out! we can also provide feedback and give you some outside perspectives as to your thoughts.<p>good luck my friend!<p>Jon

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((((((VB)))))))<p>Jon is right on looking for a new job and being proactive.<p>Although, I am wondering about you posting on MB. MB seems to make your feelings too intense and make you too down. <p>What do you think? Is MB helping you or making you worse? If you say worse then it's time to get off the boards. If you say better, then I will be here posting on your threads and supporting you.<p>Take care friend,<p>ANNA

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Hey VB_guy, I know its tough, hang in there. I know the feeling of knowing your spouse most of your life. I 've known my xw since she was 12 and we also lived on same blocked.....Started dating in 80' married in 83' shortly after highschool therefore I know the pain...your bestfriend has betrayed you, the only person this earth that you put so much trust in....its a constant bleeding of the soul...<p>Just keep praying and ask the Lord to ease your pain...Life is not over.... I am making through it by...<p>1. Talking to the Lord in Prayer
2. Talking to friends and family, I'm not ashamed no longer of what happened.
3. Posting my story and feelings on this site and getting encouragement
4. Helping others..<p>Don't give up we need you here.

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It sucks! but we will survive. We are here to help each other. I too feel heartbroken for the others I read about but dont let it get you down. It is there to let us know that we are not alone and provides us an opportunity to try to help others where we can because we know how much they are hurting. <p>Please if you havent already, do the following:
See a doctor you trust (yes I am part of the hospital thread) you are likely in depression and could use some medication - it really helps.<p>Find a good Christian counselor to talk to.<p>Find a good Christian music station to listen to - it is very uplifting.<p>Go to church, join a discussion group, talk to your pastor and above all turn your hurt over to God. If you havent asked him into your life do so now - it can make a difference.<p>Get involved with something, volenteer or help someone in need. Giving provides great joy.<p>Pull out your Bible and Read. Everything you need to know in your life is in there.<p>Proverbs 8
32 "Now then, my sons, listen to me;
blessed are those who keep my ways.
33 Listen to my instruction and be wise;
do not ignore it.
34 Blessed is the man who listens to me,
watching daily at my doors,
waiting at my doorway.
35 For whoever finds me finds life
and receives favor from the Lord .
36 But whoever fails to find me harms himself;
all who hate me love death."

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Also VB_G plan some short weekend inexpensive trips away, it helps to get out of the environment and loose your mind from the norm, at least that way its part of your short term goals to see something you've never seen before.

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Vb_guy,<p>I know you said you've just started this job..<p>Have you talked w/ your supervisors about doing a company webpage?? give you something more to do??<p>What about the program to help with monitoring their ferry's??<p>At least talk to them and see if it is possible to expand your responsibilities and increase your pay..

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I know you have probably heard that things will get easier and at times you can't imagine ever feeling normal again. You will, trust me. The pain you descibe is not only for those whose H or W took off with another OP. The death of a marriage is a death. You need to mourn it...give yourself time to make the transition and figure out who you are single and not as part of a couple.<p>Last evening I sat with a woman who recently lost her husband. He was realatively young to die...but 31 years with the same person is a long time. No, she didn't have to deal with an affair of a divorce, but she is a lot of pain. Now she goes home to a big 4 bedroom house with no one in it. She is overwhelmed. <p>There is pain with a divorce, as there is with a death. We all have choices in this life...sometimes they aren't good choices, but nonetheless there are always options. It is normal and natural to feel awful, to feel overwhelming sadness, and anger. It is not normal to feel like this years afterward. If you feel that you aren't coping...then go talk to someone and see about anti-d's to get you through. Don't change your job until you are feeling better. Going through a divorce and going through the stress of a new job will be overwhelming...believe me I know...I did the divorce, moved, and started a new job within two months...wouldn't do that again. M<p>My thoughts and prayers are with you...do something for yourself...something you used to enjoy. Eventually, you will start to have memories of things in your new life...stop looking for answers; sometimes there aren't any. Things are what they are....keep going forward...with every new day comes a new promise...a brand new start and a new chance for a happy life.

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Gosh.......thank you, all, for replying to my post.<p>
I know how much despair is out 'there' in the world and in the world Marriage Building in particular. But there is hope, too, right?<p>I am grateful to know that there are people here who care how I feel. I am in counseling and was on anti-depressants until my insurance ran out. The generic version of prozac is EXPENSIVE!<p>I wonder if I can read some of these posts anylonger; They just seem too sad and remind me too much how much I miss the person my wife used to be.<p>I think that things will get better, but I am no longer betting on it as I used to. My faith has turned from faith that God is with me to a 'wait and see' attitude. I need proof now. So I will wait and see.<p>No more hospital threads for ME! I will be watching and hopefully I can help someone here as I have been helped.<p>Thank you again,
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This has helped me gain a little perspective on my situation. Perhaps it will lend you a bit of encouragement as well.<p>There comes a time when things stop working.<p>"Life's changed," a government official told me not long ago.
"When I took this job fifteen years ago it felt like I'd jumped
into a nice, lazy river. Now it feels like a storm's hit.<p>"The water's cold and it's pounding me to death. My arms ache,
my fingers are numb, and I'm holding on for dear life to an old
rope tied to the dock. My biggest fear's that the rope will break,
or I'll slip and let go. I honestly don't know how much longer I
can hold on."<p>Maybe it's time to let go.<p>And while that may sound crazy, all of us have found ourselves
in a similar situation, suddenly waking up and discovering we're
holding on to what's already over. Knowing we'll continue to
suffer until we finally let go and move on.<p>What are you holding on to? How do you let go?<p>The first step is to realize that you're probably being held
back by a fear of the future that's stronger than any pain in
your present.

Fear, as you'll remember from an earlier newsletter, stands
for False Expectations Appearing Real. That's exactly how our
fearful parts keep us from achieving our potential: they make
disaster movies in our mind, projecting the worst that could
possibly happen if we let go of what we've got. Like a senior
executive I know who scares himself into holding on by picturing
himself becoming homeless and living out of a shopping cart. Or
a woman I know who holds onto a relationship she tells me is
"rotten" because she doesn't want to become the old maid she
sees so clearly in her mind. Question is: what pictures do you
make to keep yourself enslaved to what's over?<p>Step two: understand your options.<p>"I thought I was boxed in," said the former manager of a retail
outlet, "until I had that heart attack and finally began admitting
I did have options, including leaving the job I hated. Now I only
do what I want to do."<p>Third, make a picture of what you want life to be like. Step out
three years into your desired future, look around, and write down
what you see. Describe success, your home, the perfect relationship,
work, etc., and realize you can't get it if you can't see it in
your mind's eye first.<p>Fourth, commit to making the picture happen. And ignore the
little voice in your head that tells you not to burn your bridges.
Playing it safe is a great way to fail. Remember Caesar, who marched
his reluctant troops into battle on an island - and then burned the
bridge back to the mainland. Or Cortez, who helped his soldiers
understand commitment by burning the ships after landing in the
New World. Choose to listen instead to the inner voice that comes
from the part of you that remembers how good you really are - and
has been trying to get you to hear it for years.<p>Finally, pack a picnic lunch and spend a couple of hours in your
local cemetery, pondering your life as you wander through the
gravestones. We're all terminal, you know. It's a matter of
"when", not "if". And if you're not careful, you'll wake up too
late to do the things you've always dreamed of.<p>I still remember a killer line from an old movie -- "Joe Versus
the Volcano"-- which summed things up pretty well. Told he had six
months to live, Joe (Tom Hanks) marched up to his obnoxious boss
and quit his job, saying what's true for most of us: "I was too
chicken to live my life so I sold it to you for $300 a week!"<p>What about your life? Is it finally time to let go of what's
been -- so you can have more of what can be?<p>Let go now.<p>© Pat Lynch, 1999-2002. All rights reserved.<p>Please feel free to forward this on.

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everlastingcompassion......I have one question for you please. As you can see I am a WS with multiple affairs. If your xw came back and said she was repentive and you knew she had changed her life for the better and you still loved her. Would you try and work it out? I know we emotionally drained our spouses but I think it could be saved.
Just wondering and wanting opinions.<p> love in christ
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Hi CJ, I'm very compassionate to a WS, not all affairs are intentional or adultery, were human and can mess up. I think the difference about affairs is the accidential and intentional ones. I know people can be seduced and tempted and you buy the whole package, thats why most have credit cards they're screaming in agony to payoff that they temporarily enjoyed until maxed out and payment time came [most get seduced in accepting the credit card] spend now, pay later, so is it with affairs....affairs max out in time, and the payments high..<p>To answer your question; I would take her back, but only by a structured rebuild and restore relationship plan. She would have to show me she was willing to try and I wouldn't beg not one bit, love her yes, if she wants me she'll give the effort such as: presenting cellphone bill activity, no $10.00 calling cards, no secret email accounts, Go to church together, study marriage material together, tell me whats she's learning from the material [ a share time], Dream together, have me involved in her life activities, Show ethics with her friends [male], account for lots free time away from home at first, not always....As you see its all about building trust...Trust is whats been violated, if she came back and did that, i think it could work, we always got along, she grew in some area of her thinking, I was to wrapped up in my own world of financial bondage to see needs, but she never saw mine either, thats why there would have to be a structured plan....so yes I would take her back if she was willing to do it this way otherwise I'd be wasting my time with her.

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Ever....I was praying you would say those exact words. My wife and I were best friends also and did everything together(including church). I made the dreadful mistake of betraying my wife and now I would do anything to get it back. The problem I have right now is she is soooo devastated that she doesn't want it back but like I have said before it can be done with Gods help and lots of work.<p> Thanks for the opinion. I needed to see the other sides perspective. If you put yourself in the other persons shoes sometimes you get a much better picture of what needs to be done.<p> love in christ
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Dear Free Indeed:<p>I am digesting your FANTASTIC reply.........THANK YOU!<p>vb


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