I dunno ppl, me and WW have been separated for almost a month now. It is not good. I feel dysfunctional at work, but am ok doin other things, like golf, partying, workout, eating, hanging out. *sigh* And she calls... and SMS... sometimes I just dun feel a need to repl unless it has to do with daughter. Was goin back to visit daughter, SMS her abt it, and told her mom abt it thru phone. SMS me to bring back milk. I did not reply... but of course I would bring back. OK, I was immature, I should at least say I would bring back milk. Also ask me things like what am I goin back on.. and where I was gonna stay. I did not reply. She called. Asking me to bring back baby's milk first, that is ok of course. Am goin back by train. Then thinking on the phone, what else I can bring back, I was like, HELLO??? I am taking the train, and you like have the car??? I asked what else is there, and hang up. It just cheeses me out everytime I hear her voice. But I know I should not sound like that, damn!... I should be like a stranger, a delivery boy answering questions as a matter of factly manner. geez.. it is just so hard!... She moved out, still has a lotta stuff in the house...ask me to look for this and that... then after a few days I thought abt it, I say to myself why dun you look for them, these are your things... I ain't gonna do that kinda stuff no more, not like last time, no!... But when it comes to daughter, I know somehow, sometime we will meet, or rather talk over the phone, it is just so tough for me.... Here I am trying to recover, and tone down a bit... and everytime this happened, it just suck. I did not write her any Plan B letter, I think I have wrote her something similiar... but not good nuff I guess... it is definitely not a "no contact" letter. Thanks for listening to me venting...

Anyhow, I understand... I must change... I am so scared of the same pattern on my next relationship, or even other relationship (friends, family etc...) Venting babbling... unbelievable

somehow, I just want to appear in court so that this whole thing will be legally over, I do not want it to drag for 3 months... I understand no matter how one recovers, ta the moment in time, it all comes back.. all over again... well, I somehow "decide" and hope it will be quick... is thi self-pity? *sigh* Faith, patience, courage.. help me. I am babbling again.

Hey, my wife left about a month ago, too! We were amrried for almost three years with no kids. It's all a game of who can seem more detached and uncaring of the other. Who cares. When she sounds all cold on the phone I know she is playing Superwoman. "You do not move me, mister"

Whateva. Love dies, man. More so today than ever. Nobody needs anyone anymore. External influences and the smallest of slights will hobble a marriage. Ours ends not due to any infidelity or acts of abuse-just extreme anger and depression and childhood abuse on her side, and the affects of things I do concerning those things. It became impossible to please her in the littlest ways. Like trying to fill a bucket that has no bottom with water. An emotional black hole.

I have my own views on why marriage is so messed up these days, along with the American family, and all that, but they would just offend people on this board.

I think a good point to remember is, do what you can do and neyond that, it's all a crapshoot.

Oh, and one other thing--don't fool yourself into believing that she will not eventually treat a new person just like she did you. People don't change. I am almost fascinated to see how, when it happens, my wife operates in a new relationship. THat guy better have TONS of patience. he's goona need more than that!