I have until September 21 to return to my XH items that I removed from the marital property that are in everyone else's eyes very much MINE but ... just the same ... that's my thing.

I call him last night ...

"Can I deliver the property before September 21?"

"No, why?"

"Because I have a (college) class that meets on Saturdays."

"What time, maybe we can work around it."

"I think it's 9:00 to 4:00."

"Well then be there at noon."

"That isn't 'working around it' ..."

"You wanna play, you gotta pay."

"Thank you SO MUCH for your help."

"You're SO welcome!"

-click-

This is how big of a, ahem, Richard Cranium this man is. He won't allow me to return 'his' stuff before the deadline. He wants it at noon on the last day. F*** if I am supposed to be somewhere.

People who care about me are lined up to kick his sorry @$$ ... when will I stop holding them back!?!

Well, person 1 is in a different state, but maybe I can have person 2 and person 3 make that Saturday delivery?

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Just kidding ... sorta ...

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by ex-Princess Buttercup:
<strong>I call him last night ...

"Can I deliver the property before September 21?"
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Why are you asking permission. If I were you, I would show up at 3 am and put all the stuff on the doorstep. Then ring the doorbell like a crazy woman. I'd get in the car and as soon as he opens the door, I'd drive away. See ya later, Sh*thead !!!

Of course, that's just me.

better yet..... when dealing with [censored]....

Put it in writing and send registered mail with a COPY to YOUR lawyer.

Dear [censored],

Your belongings will be delivered to your home at 123 Mockingbird Lane, Wherever, USA, on September ___, 2002 at approximately 14:00.

Yours truly,
ex-Princess Buttercup

End of story. He's been informed, you are following the Order and it's up to HIM to be there or have someone there to accept the goods.

Why are you talking to this idiot anyways???? (Oh yeah... I do the SAME thing..."thinking perhaps we can converse as mature adults.")

Good luck!

There now you have two good ideas how to deal with a pr**k.

Is there really anything saying that you need to be a delivery service? Another way to handle it is to send him a letter and/or email saying that the stuff will be in your driveway at date/time. He is more welcome to come pick it up.

He can only be a pr**k to you if you play along.

CYA...

Send him the stuff Fed-X, and request a delivery receipt... they'll try to deliver it twice, then HE will have to pick it up.

And you'll have documented PROOF that you fullfilled your legal obligation to return the stuff by the 21st of Sept.

BTW the ex-PB, that's not a DIVORCE you have, that's an ongoing WAR! - Good Luck!!!

There are many solutions, but first, you need to start learning some reverse psychology. . . this is an easy one. . .

PREMISE 1: he is going to say no to anything you say. . . CORRECT? he is a poster boy for ODD. . .

Your request is that you are free all day, but have a study meeting from 6 am to 8am. . . . and then have a meeting with the professor from 4 pm to 6 pm . . . .

it will be pretty easy to come up with an opposite story. . . . i used to play with X's mind like that when she was in her oppositional moods. . .

Ask your X when will he NOT be home, then he will be home. . . but have about three large body guards, or hire an off duty officer, look up security guards. . . . and rent one for the afternoon. . . . get your lawyer to negotiate a time, bring a police man with your document of time. . .

geez, why are you making YOUR life more difficult by almost provoking him to act out against you? do you have a need for negative attention by him? do you need to stay connected with him??

<small>[ September 12, 2002, 09:47 AM: Message edited by: WhenIfindthetime ]</small>

Okay, a little more info, here's the order, the screwy way his lawyer interpreted what the judge said:

~~~

It is Ordered:

1. That Defendant return to Plaintiff's residence at ***, the items that are the subject matter of the September 5 Motion, removed from the premises at any time during the month of August 2002.
2. That the items shall be returned in the same condition as when taken, without damage, and returned to roughly the same area from where they were taken.
3. That Defendant will return these items on Saturday, September 21, 2002, unless other arrangements are made between the parties to everyone's satisfaction.
4. That, in the alternative, Defendant has the option to pay Plaintiff the sum of $500 by no later than September 21, 2002, to purchase all of the items she removed.

~~~

And a final paragraph about the drop in the bucket I must pay toward his attorney fees. I can file a written objection before tomorrow? It's 6:13 pm here, not likely.

I am not ordered to deliver them at precisely noon, that's good. He also does not live at this "residence" so if I choose to deliver at 3:00 am on Saturday, I suppose that is an option. However, I'm worried that since he won't be there, he'll say I trespassed again and make up something else that I "stole" ... so I want him to be there ... well, not really, buuuuut ... best for me if he is. The only thing is, at this time in the post-divorce game, there is no such thing as an unbiased witness ... my assistant/bodyguard at the slightest provocation will most likely walk up and blacken his eye.

Would I face charges if he did that??!

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by WhenIfindthetime:
<strong>geez, why are you making YOUR life more difficult by almost provoking him to act out against you? do you have a need for negative attention by him? do you need to stay connected with him??</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I contact him only out of dire necessity. The 1-2 times a week I must see him to pick up the kids are nearly nauseating.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by ex-Princess Buttercup:
<strong>I have until September 21 to return to my XH items that I removed from the marital property that are in everyone else's eyes very much MINE but ... just the same ... that's my thing.

I call him last night ...

"Can I deliver the property before September 21?"

"No, why?"

"You wanna play, you gotta pay."

"Thank you SO MUCH for your help."

"You're SO welcome!"

-click-

</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Chick-A-Boom! Don't ya just looooove it! Sorry, I had to throw that one in there. Don't you see what he's doing?
He's making it hard for you to deliver 'his precious stuff' back to him (we know who it belongs to and it's not him) so when you can't jump through the hoopZ he's putting you through - and walk on the water he's ordering you to - then he's going to run back to Court and whine/complain that 'she's NOT doing what she was ordered to' yadda yadda yadda - and then use that for additional ammo to shoot at you with.
I feel very sure that's what he's doing, because I too, had to deal with an extremely VINDICTIVE BITTER PETTY CHILDISH ex-spouse who did every single thing she could to 'make me pay for the rest of my life' for our Divorce. Relax, it DOES get better - please hang in there, pray a lot, vent on MB and you WILL get thru this!
Keep the Faith - and you WILL come out of this smelling like a rose. Unfortunately, I'm afraid I can't say the same for him...
God bless!
Harold