I just got the strangest call ever!! My W's OM just called me and told me that "he doesn't want her and I can have her...BUT I need to stop treating her like a kid and start treating her like a woman". <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> He also said that my W and him have maintained phone contact (W is with me and wants to work out M) but W denies it. If you look at my sig line, you will see that my W's track record about telling the truth is not so good. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> I find it amusing (maybe amazing is a better word) that the OM is watching out for her but doesn't want her anymore?? OM also said that W is staying with me cause of money (cakewoman). Can't wait for the next call from him <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />

I threatened W with D and have papers in hand (unsigned) because I'm tired of this merry-go round ride. So, how do I handle 2 liars??? IS it time to end this nightmare that is driving me BeSeRk? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" />

First off, do NOT give the om any power. Just ignore what he says. It is to get some response from you & get you ticked off. Is it working?

I threatened W with D and have papers in hand (unsigned)
What exactly did you "threaten?"

The problem with "threats" is in order for them to work, you better be prepared to back them up, which is something a lot of people are not willing to do. Not good, not bad, it just is. Don't burn your bridges.

because I'm tired of this merry-go round ride
When you are truly tired of it, you won't need/have/want to "threaten" anything. You'll just do it. Then her reaction to it won't matter (emotionally) to you.

Of course you want something to happen. Give it time and make sure you have done what you need to do.

Chris-

I threatened divorce. This is the second time since July but didn't get papers first time. I am prepared to back it up, IF needed. You are right about the merry go round ride.

OM made threats against me which I may file an official complaint with police. What a dork...

File harassment charges against him. What a cakeman. And she is hopefully staying out of the baker's shop and is planning to only bake pies at home with you now..

Tell you attorney and get her reaction. See what she says to do. And let your W know about the call calmly. See how she reacts. Really good book is called, "When you lover is a liar". Gives signals when they are lying. How to read them. Sounds to me actually like OM is sour grapes at her coming home. You must and I mean MUST INSIST ON THE FOUR RULES OF RECOVERY FROM YOUR WW. ESPECIALLY THE NO CONTACT ONE WITH HER CO CONSPIRATOR IN CAKE. Ok?

If Austin ever comes home, the FOUR RULES SHALL BE TACKED UPON THE FRONT DOOR LIKE MARTIN LUTHER DID WITH HIS EDICT. Austin is too foggy now to even consider starting a no cake diet.

It appears she is going through a mid-life thing.
Perhaps she'll tire of being a teenager and choose to be her age and your wife again.