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#741490 12/19/02 10:30 PM
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On my other thread, mrrlk inspired me to give myself credit for the GIGANTIC steps I've taken, and I thought about it and agreed. So, in honor of the journey I've taken over my life, here are the STEPS I HAVE TAKEN:

1. I survived being hit every day with rolling pins and broom handles
2. I survived being lectured and screamed at every day
3. I survived standing at attention for two hours every day
4. I survived being sexually touched as a toddler
5. I survived being asked to do sexual things as a child
6. I learned about God and had a relationship with Him as a child
7. I survived until I was old enough to move out of the house
8. I made it through college (somehow!)
9. I read the entire bible (old and new testaments) four times
10. I made some serious mistakes in college and in young adulthood
11. I drank WAY TOO MUCH in college
12. I had promiscuous sex in my young adulthood
13. I did recreational drugs in young adulthood
14. I became pregnant when I wasn’t married
15. I admitted I was an alcoholic and became sober while I was pregnant (16 years now)
16. I stopped doing ANY kind of drugs when my son was born… even caffeine!
17. I survived my son’s birth, but just barely.
18. My daughter was a premie—two months early!
19. I survived my H’s first physical affair shortly after my daughter’s birth
20. I cared for my premature daughter all by myself
21. I ran a profitable restaurant all by myself
22. I was a HUGE reason my H’s business was successful
23. I supported my H in pursuing his dream—even if cashflow was not as dependable
24. I juggled a budget and money to keep the family and business afloat
25. I survived being a mom for the kids while also being self-employed
26. I realized/recognized that there was something amiss with my anger and went to individual counseling ON MY OWN.
27. I spent three years in intense counseling to work on my abusive past
28. Although the counseling was HARD and painful, I did it with no support from my family
29. I learned about my inner child and how to talk to her and deal with her
30. I discovered that I had no Nurturing inner voice in my head—I had a Child, Protector and a GREAT BIG Criticizer…but no Nurturer. I had to learn that from scratch.
31. I learned what a Nurturer sounds like in your head by writing down what a Mother would say (a Mrs. Cleaver kind of mother…not MY mother!), what a Dog would say, and what God would say. Often God crossed over into Criticizer, so I had to write what a LOVING God might say.
32. I had to relive memories from my childhood that made me sick as an adult
33. My H tried to join me in counseling, but it was not successful
34. I survived several flings, flirts, and emotional affairs (thinking at the time, it was best for the kids)
35. On February 3, 2000, my H left me for a woman in another state. He left me with no job, two kids, all the bills, and a mortgage three months behind.
36. In the midst of THAT, I found a good job
37. In the midst of THAT, I paid all our bills
38. In the midst of THAT, I got our mortgage caught up.
39. I survived the initial shock and sorrow of when a spouse leaves you
40. I found Dr. Phil’s book "Relationship Rescue"
41. I got real with myself and realized I had contributed to the state of our marriage
42. I worked on myself and the relationship
43. I went to an entire anger management course—one whole year
44. I found MB and after reading all the concepts, began to Plan A
45. I got Dr. Harley’s book and began to read them and understand the concepts even further
46. I found out what my Emotional Needs and my Love Busters were
47. I communicated my Emotional Needs and my Love Busters
48. I found Patricia Evan’s book, "The Verbally Abusive Relationship"
49. I COULDN’T BELIEVE IT! THAT WAS ME!
50. I got and read other books on marriage/relationships by authors like Dr. Laura, Dr. Harley, Dr. Phil (haha), Gary Smalley, Ellen Kriedman, etc.
51. I applied what I understood from the books
52. I read other books on verbal abuse like "Invisible Wounds" and "Controlling People
53. As I learned from each book, I practiced new techniques
54. I got and read books for my own personal growth like "Life Strategies" and "Self Matters"
55. I wrote journal after journal about what I was learning
56. I got on web sites and learned about marriage/relationships
57. I got on web sites and learned about affairs
58. I got on web sites and learned about verbal abuse
59. I got on web sites and learned about emotional and mental abuse
60. I got on web sites and learned about Post Traumatic Stress Disorder
61. I kept trying, kept giving "second chances" and kept having hope
62. I became very close to God
63. I learned how to walk with loneliness
64. I learned how to throw pity parties
65. I learned that a spouse is not always patient because THEY need to learn patience!
66. I learned that walking through the fire purifies you
67. I learned that when I feel like God has abandoned me, He is actually carrying me
68. I went to individual counseling with a "guy" counselor and I liked him because he was really blunt, to the point, and thought like a guy <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />
69. My H came to the "guy" counselor with me and they hit it off, so I let him keep going to him
70. I switched individual counselors to a lady counselor, and I liked HER even better
71. I participated in and worked on the assignments for the Marriage Builder weekend
72. I found and secured a marriage counselor who would come to our home
73. I did every "homework" assignment for both marriage and individual counseling
74. I discovered a support group for verbally/emotionally abused women in my town
75. I went to that support group and shared with the women
76. I took home the "homework" from the support group and worked on it during the week.
77. I moved out three times when the his abusive behavior became literally intolerable
78. I built my own self-esteem and self-worth
79. I learned that it is Godly to protect my heart, for it is the wellspring of life
80. I learned that it is loving to allow people to feel the consequences of their choices
81. I discovered a brand new concept: BOUNDARIES (what the heck are they?)
82. I find out that all of my boundaries were trampled as a child, so I never developed good personal boundaries!
83. I had to learn what boundaries were from scratch.
84. I practiced boundaries, but it was awkward and clumsy
85. I picked one boundary and stuck with it…"I’m not okay with that"
86. I honored my promises—to myself and to others
87. I was Radically Honest and expected the same from my spouse
88. I vowed to myself I would not tolerate being cheated on again—for my own self-respect
89. I held to that boundary
90. I protected myself and my kids

I don't know about you guys, but I can see that God's been working in my life, and I have faith that He will continue working at HIS pace and at MY pace.

CJ

#741491 12/21/02 12:59 PM
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Cindy,

Many things in your post I can relate to on a personal level as well..

I've read LOTS and LOTS of books as well..and am
reading another now.."Fit to be Tied" by Bill and
Lynne Hybels

I find there are STILL things in relationships I didn't know to look for during the dating years..
questions to ask..and all that good stuff..

Did you realize marriage is SUPPOSED to be confrontational??? Because it's two sinful people living together who come from different backgrounds trying to mesh together..and marriage is supposed to challenge us to become better people by working through those differences together..

It's not supposed to be happy and everything ALL the time where you agree on everything??

Some of the things to ask yourself --

Do I respect this person?

Do I LIKE this person? (as marriage is more about friendship than it is about romance)

Would I like this person even if I weren't dating them?

What are their priorities?

How is their self-discipline?

Do they cut corners legally?
do they joke 'laws are made to be broken'? that is something to look at in their character..

Do they take care of themselves? their bodies?

Don't over look little white lies..even if they aren't to you..if they will lie to others they will lie to you..

Disappointments that are their during the dating years..are more prevelent during marriage..

Do they have the same spiritual values?

Do they see God the same way you do?

If your looking at getting married..and are rushing into it..STOP!!! Time is on your side..
give the relationship time to grow..to look at the small details..and find out if you can work through them during the dating years..

Ask about their family back ground..how do their parents handle conflicts? do they know? what do they see as the role of their perspective spouse?
what do they see as their role? are the views the same?

ask friends and family to give their input..
because they may see things you over look because of the romance factor..things that may cause conflict later..

How do they treat their friends?

These are things that should be discussed during dating..but are often ignored..but you can still work through them if your already married..

Like I said, I am still learning a great deal about myself, the beliefs I held before all this mess, and what It really should be like..

#741492 12/21/02 03:40 PM
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FW...

When you put all the steps you have taken in a thread, GIGANTIC is an understatement! Your list can make some of us review and look at what steps we thought we have personally accomplished and feel the need to rethink our progress.

As I said to you before, you have gone that extra mile, given all that you have to give and at the end of the day you must feel good that you did more than anyone could imagine.

And if your marriage does end...your work and your effort was not invested for nothing...

Some thoughts for you to consider from Melody Beattie...

TIMES OF REPROGRAMMING

Recovery is not all tiresome, unrewarded work. There are times of joy and rest, times when we struggle to learn someting new or overcome a problems and challenges in our lives.

These are the times when what we've been practicing in our personal recovery work begin to show in our life. These time of change are intense, but purposeful.

There are also times when, at a deep level, we are being "reprogrammed." We start letting go of beliefs and behaviors. We may feel frightened or confused during these times. Our old behaviors or patterns may not have worked for us, but they were very comfortable and familiar.

During these times we may feel vulnerable, lonely, and needy - like we are on a journey without a road map or a flashlight, and we feel as if no one has traveled this ground before.

We may not understand what is being worked out in us. We may not know where or if we are being led.

We are being led. We are not alone. Our Higher Power is working His finest and best to bring true change in us. Others have traveled this road too! We will be led to someone who can help us, someone who can provide the markers we need.

We are being prepared for receiving as much joy and love as our heart can imagine to ever hold.

Recovery is a healing process. We can trust it, even when we don't understand it. We are right where we need to be in this process; we're going through exactly what we need to experience. And where we're going is better than any place we've been.

Today, God, help me believe that the changes I'm going through are for the good. Help me believe that the road I'm traveling will lead to a place of light, love, and joy.

Melody Beattie - The Language of Letting Go

mr r

#741493 12/21/02 06:44 PM
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cj, WOW! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> I hope you read this yourself and really see how much you've accomplished. I relate to so much of what you've been through and know how hard it is to go through it and to take the GIGANTIC steps you've taken. Change is hard, but it will be rewarded, things can only get better <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> . Leslie


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