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#753877 07/08/03 12:45 AM
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I could sure use some advice! I want so much to try and save our marriage, but find no way to get my husband engaged with it. Some days I feel so desperate, even though I understand I need to give it up to God.

My husband moved out last November. I came home from work one day and he was gone. He called me from his brother's saying he wasn't coming back. I had no clue that things were to the breaking point! No mention that of "I can't go on living like this" or "we need some help". He just moved out!

Shortly after that, we started some counseling that was free through his work with a fellow that wasn't a marriage counselor. He offered some insight, but we weren't offered tools to really help our situation. Once I found the Marriage Builders site and suggested that it might be more helpful, my husband jumped at the chance to quit counseling. We tried exploring each others needs and I was working to better understand his, but there seemed apathy on his part - once I commented on this and he decided to quit that path, too, saying "You're never satisfied".

I came to understand that a big part of the problem was that he was suffering from depression so there was no energy to work on the marriage, and everything seemed hopeless to him. In February, he told me he needed more space because the emotional pain was too great and the only way to heal the marriage was for us to stop seeing each other. I was very doubtful, but agreed to try if he would get counseling for his depression. I started with another counselor, but he never did.

When I realized that social isolation is really bad for people with depression I dropped in on him, worried about how his health was, offering to call the doctor for follow-up to the medication she prescribed and to make appointments for therapy for the depression. He was very pleasant to me on that day, but the following day emailed me that he would file for divorce (kind of like being fired by email - VERY painful!).

In April, the medication seemed to be working and he looked like he was coming out of the depression (we had to meet to sign off on tax returns). He suggested that we try dating and not go back to fix things, just start over. I was encouraged but cautious. We did that for 3 weeks - the last time on our 5th wedding anniversary, then I didn't hear from him for a month.

Last month, the counselor I was seeing could see how difficult it was for me to not know what was going on with him and our relationship. Her advice: tell him how you feel (the ups & downs) and tell him what you need, knowing that there are no guarantees that he will provide what I ask. I had prefered things to be in limbo, a painful place to be, than to know he wanted to end things. However, I finally felt I was in a place where I was ready "to know". SO I explained how hard things had been, how I wanted to work on it, asked if/when he would be willing to develop our relationship again. The response - he appologized for leaving me in limbo for so long and served me with divorce papers.

I really want to "make" him give it another try. To have him move out without discussing how bad things were for him before hand, and to never really have given it a chance to improve things since then fills me with despair. It's like being in a wasteland where there is no redemption, no second chances - being punished according to rules I didn't know existed. We are both Christians so we understand how important forgiveness is.

I have been repeatedly sad - sometimes I think I focus too much on the grief and not enough on what's good in my life. I can't stop thinking about him, trying to rehearse just the right words that would make him give me another chance.

Most of the people who know my husband can't believe the situation, any more than I can. They remember him saying things like, "People give up too easily on marriages; there are no problems that can't be talked through".

I don't want this divorce. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" /> I don't know what else I can offer, besides a willingness to change, to convince him that there's no need to go back to the pain we had, if we're willing to do things different. Any advice would be appreciated...

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Hello Serendipity. I'm sorry about your situation and hope that things become clearer for your in time. I know how you feel because I'm in the same situation. My wife doesn't want to put any effort on us. I've been separated for a couple months because I pushed her away after finding out about a couple indiscretions on her part during the past year. I miss her now more than ever and I absolutely hate that feeling of limbo that you mentioned. People have been telling me that I should let go and that if it was meant to be than she'll come back to me. I feel desparate to get her back and not being able to get through to her hurts so much. I feel like she is making a big mistake but I can't control her decisions. I hope that in your case, you don''t become overwhelmed with grief. There is light at the end of the tunnel and things happen for a reason even if you don't know what that reason is just yet.

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Serenity,
I am so sorry. I feel your pain. My husband also dropped a bomb on me 6 months ago. Now, after a hard fought Plan A and a Plan B that started on our 23rd Anniversary in May, he tells me he has no feelings left for me...none. Oh, he loves me like a sister or something, but not that special kind of love and he doesnt have any interest in trying to get it back. He refused counseling from the beginning.

I think somewhere in Plan B I finally did give it to God. Oh, I had made that claim many times, but I always tried to take it back and "fix" things. Somewhere I realized my husband had to "fix" some things too for us to ever be happy again. He has no interest in that and I finally realized that I cant make him.

Like your husband, he gave me no "warning". Now, I knew he was unhappy, but I thought is was from his not dealing with his Parkinson's Disease (he is only 46). I know some of our problems are associated with it, but he refuses to get help. He too is depressed. I had no idea it was me he was so unhappy with. I never thought I would hear those words out of his mouth.

Unlike your husband, mine is not a Christian, so I dont think he takes the matter of divorce the way I do. He has no hope, no faith in anything. I think that makes a big difference.

I guess what I am trying to say is that I feel like I have done all that is within my power to do, it is in God's hands. Unfortunately, God can only do so much with someone who has a hardened heart. God may be calling, but my husband is refusing to listen, which may be the case with your husband.

At this point I am just waiting...for God to move or my husband to make a decision. I am not ready to throw in the towel just yet. He is going to have to ask me for a divorce before I will give him one. His "I dont want to be married right now, but I am not asking you for a divorce" statement is not cutting it.

You did not mention your ages, children or how long you have been married. We have two children ages 20(D) and 15(S). Our daughter was not really caught off guard by all this, although she thought it was me who finally snapped. Our son, however, had no idea, but seems to be handling it very well. We have a new house we had only been in 1 1/2 years when he moved out. We built that house together, the memories are painful.

Hugs to you, the people here are so helpful. Even if you just hang around and read alot like I do... you know you are not alone.


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