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I found this letter from my W while i was packing. I have no idea when she wrote it. What i want to do, is to send it to her. Everything in parenthesis is what i have said back to her. W moved out in Feb. filed for divorce in March. Two weeks ago, she asked if i would change the court date. Due to the fact its on our wedding annivesary. This court date is from her protesting the courts custody decision. I'm not so sure if i can change the date. Its not me who originated this paticular date. To date, everything she has agreed on in the past, she always found a reason to not allow. I have been set up by her as well. In her PPO, she accused me of calling her lawyer, trying to talk him into stopping the divorce. During our conversation,, she said call the lawyer,, we had questions about the retainer fee, knowing perfectly well i have no lawyer. Should i send this letter to my wife? Yes, i truly want to. I'm all about saving our marriage.
I thought that things would happen so much differently for us. It was so *fairy tale* Yoo were so in love with me and you were so sure about our future. ( THAT NEVER CHANGED ) You said sweet loving things if i was upset ( i tried explaining why i stopped for awhile, remember making a comment about your mom crying, i thought your message to me was to stop and or slow down ) (Then attempts i made after this, were denied, cuz you felt as though i was denying you, a misunderstanding ) you reassered me, you told me over and over how much you loved me. ( I still did, on a daily basis, yet with less words, but ever so much with actions, and affection) You would hold me. You were so happy that you cried,( I cry now, almost every day) you delivered roses, candy, cards, love letters, (these never stopped) My God, i felt like the most beautiful and important person on the face of this earth. To this day i still think and feel that you are!!) ( We had less and less of quality time together, opposite shifts) I was so intoxicated with you ( as i'am in you) that it would have been easy to have forgotten my own name. ( one thing i thought was important to you, was being a good provider) ( This has to do with ones needs, i seriously believed i was meeting your needs, thats why i was confused) I met a lot of your needs, only not in the order that you require them) You (and yours) have become my world-my everything. ( The same here my dear, the same here) I've grown to love and need you!!! ( i never wanted to stop growing) And the most amazing part is that I've let my defenses down enough to admit it. ( i never had any defenses against your love to let down) To you. I've never felt that i needed anyone before. (samre here) (remembering the very first time i seen you) I've never had to desire. I always thought that things like that were stupid. That people who needed were weak. ( i gave you my weakness's) I knew that my destiny was to be alone. (only cuz you never met me soon enough lol) (yet its still normal to think that way *in* relationships) No one i thought would be able to measure up to the standards that i considered necassary. (you made a choice to allow me, a choice to love me) (people choose to love, or choose to hate) (i sure wished you were with me learning all i am regarding relationships, everything we have and are experiencing, are so normal) You stormed into my life. (there was a reason) You made me feel (as you made me feel) You made me think and even question the ways i had always viewed life. (remember what i first said, meeting you,, you are thee most beautiful flower) (so yes, my views changed) I tried to dislike you for all of that. And to be honest, sometimes i did hate you for it. (perfectly normal, probably more than you realize)( i too at times disliked you,its normal!) I felt so threatened by even your presence because it made me weaken, become vulnerable, defenseless. ( seeing you as well, weakened me, yet, made me feel like king) (my dear, before anybody knew of us, i was always asked who is she, your walk has changed,,,)
Yes we'd get over it. It would hurt. It would hurt all of us. (then why do it?) But he would be free. (he does not want to be free) (he always wanted more of you) (remember our wedding song? its your love,, i just can't get enough, i said this to you so often) How would i, could i ever pursue another relationship? ( then why leave, why allow the thoughts,, hmm, *choice* ) This is it. Its HIM and nobody else. ( i feel the same, its her, or nobody else) (there are so many stones left unturned) God, the idea of it terrifies me. ( as me too) But so does living a life in which i'm not truly loved (oh dear, i'am ever so much in love with you) or wanted and neither are ALL of my children. (you are truly loved) i have always loved your children, in fact, more than i ever thought was possible, i love them as if they were my bio children. look how i helped son settle down, from all the times he had to stay with me at practices, we became ever so close!!! Did you know for a long time, he wanted to come back here and live? Look at how he and i balled, embracing each other the dat you moved out!? )) If he doesn't have any appreaciation or desire for me now he never will ( i never, ever lost any desire for you) (somehow i managed to leave you the impression i wanted nothing to do with you, thats the furthest from the truth. again, i couldn't get enough of you and your love. We slowly were becoming strangers, we allowed, another *choice* made.) How long has it been since he has tried to touch me? Too long. Imagine if we did stay together. It would go months. (wow, i have thought the exact same thing, this really confuses me, remember my sharing the desire, for washing your back, while showering, hoping certain doors would open? Remember me asking to occassionally come home to me and us, maybe i should have been more direct, i wanted more of your intamacy, always wanted more!!!) (rememebr talking about out in the cback yard,, remember my desire to shower with you,,, all the flowers, candy,,,acts of affection, why? love! desire(ed)! so on and so on,, hoping that again, certain doors would open. I gave to you, and or expressed my desires for you, to you.) He used to think that i was pretty, ( actually, as a matter of fact, I STILL DO!!! In fact, i think your so damn georgeous!! Personallity has a lot to do w/ this as well.)( to this day, every dang flower i see, always has made me think of you!!! One re4ason, due to *our* and your passion for flowers, all the time we used to *choose* to spend time together planting flowers) Did the pregnancy change that? Was he just horny at first? ( yes, and no, horny because of who i was looking at, desiring) (its suppose to be ok, to be, and give the horny thoughts as well,,)(so i thought anyhow) Was i to easy? Too eager for his love and acceptance? He's just plain old sick and tired of me. ( i seriously thought that if you, i *choose* not to be sick or tired of you, instead i *choose* to always love you) Maybe its my kids. (i adore them, right up to this day!!!) Maybe its me me me me. ( i too wondered the same,maybe its me)
This hurts. Why can't he want me like he used to? ( i still do, to this second, in this day!!!) Remember me sharing with and to you, the frustration?) Why? What is so wrong with me. ( we are all human, we all make mistakes, does that mean anything is wrong) There is help available,,,!!!??? I'm not implyiog anything,, ) I try and i love him even though right now i hate him, (again, normal in the majority of relationships) (some of it does have to do with the order of ones needs, his needs, and her needs, not necassarily in that order) All i want is for him to return that love, ( i want you to return that love as well) For him to still feel the same way. (again, i *choose* to always love you, to this second, I LOVE YOU!!!)_ What is so wrong with me? ( maybe its time to consider an counselor) (yet, does it necassarily mean anything is wrong with either one/) (communication, plays a huge role in relationships, it has a major impact, in a positive way) Why has this happened so many times? ( there are answers for this) I must be really gullible to beleive all of their lines. (not once have i ever used a line, not even in my past, before you) To beleive that they really love me. (love is by *choice* ) To have beleived that he would ever really marry me. I fell for it. All of it. And it looks like i got used. Humiliated. Dogged> God, I'm so F______ stupid. ( God knows i would never do any of these, is that what my love is really about? ) (maybe its your *choice* to think and feel that way,) just something to consider is all) (wondering how on earth did i ever leave this impression, lack of communication skills,, damn does this hurt!!!) (I have always been so crazy in love with you, ask anybody in my world, outside of your, and ours) (from all the times i was accused of talking about you, i never understood why you would allow those thoughts, again, how did i manage to leave this impression on you) Why in the hell did i ever think that my life was working out? (because you knew it was, you allowed that *choice* to allow those thoughts) (you used to allow me to be me, then you wanted to change the was i dressed,, i think there may be some kind of consquences associated with this??) I should have known better. (in our beginning, you allowed certain thoughts, lets focus on the *fairytale* one day its like we wake up, realize there is no such a thing,,, its devastating, so we begin to think we made another mistake, and start opting for ways out, any and or all relationships require a lot of commitment, hard work if you will. they all should be a 100% to 100%, some think 50 50. There is no such a thing as a harmonious relationship, we can make it smooter, by ones *choice* as well as difficult. When one starts accusing, threatening, blaming,,, leaving and giving ultamatums, we now focus negative) (PROJECTION??). To both involved, probab;y could be a form of abuse, The same choice made to hate/resent, the same choice, energy is used to see, focus, on positive acts, resulting in once again, loving. We have to look at how we are programmed, *automatic thoughts*
Anger. (accusations,, frequently aggravate a tense situation, as well as threats, frequently aggravate a tense situation. (accused) of flirting,, even with that shopper, i can honestly say, i didn't even think she was flirting with me, i do not automatically think the negative,, if thats whst she was doing, well so what, i didn't go chasing her, in fact, i didn't even look or think, or talk any flirting way, or sexual.
He doesn't give a **** probably never did. ( i will say this, i never looked for anything, or anyone better, cuz there was none. A choice you decided to make, it is as simple as that. ) (did you maybe allow this thought on your behalf, to make your decision, the choice to leave me, and nine? To make it look as though it was all just me? )) (from all the simple phone calls i gave to you, right up until the day you left me, to all the cups of coffee, the exact way you liked, all the breakfasts i cooked, even the special meals i'd prepare for you even when you called from work asking for me too make you something, i was ever so excited to be asked, it was as if WOW, she needs me, even if it was for ,cooking,) (all the times i sat up waiting for you to come home from work, involving myself with your computer projects, yes, at times hoping to get something in return, its suppose to be ok, we are husband and wife. Now we have to look at this as one can and or will be considered as selfish and either one can be) is that how we should look at it?) ( i seriously was convinced i was meeting your needs, and i couldn't figure out why certain issues would arise, why you would say some of the things you have, like the time you said i always deny you, my reply was, this guy would never deny an opportunity, my first thought was sexual, also thinking how i would do so much around here, all household chores, childrens needs,family commitment, and requirements, something i thought any mother would be proud of their husband for, more so appreciating, and then respecting. do you have any idea just how many breakfrasts i would cook, in a week? I could go on and on with all the affection acts i gave and or did for you, for us,)
Fighting, most imporatnt of all, fighting isn't bad, its how you fight is what makes it bad. not if you fight, its how you fight ends. Each and every relationship will have fights.!! (Character assination) (venting frustration) Lets look at the list of needs, the top ten, werethey are they being fulfilled,,?? *recreational* physical appearance* *sexual fulfillment* *conversation* *affection* *open and honesty* financial support* domestic support* *family commitment* *admiration* What is your order of needs,? Now, can you list mine? In order? How many of these needs was i offering, and giving? Yourself included? This is what i mean when i said i thought i was doing ok in your needs, Lets discuss flirting, a real bid issue with us. Ther is flirting, and then there is *flirting* I never crossed any lines, i never *flirted* with any other lady!!! (accusation) (acceptance) Being in love is a choice, we have more power to make that choice if we root ourself in the present. If one gives with an open heart, and he or she gives to you, it won't be difficult to fall back in love- feelings of love or in love fluctuate in all relationships. They come and they go. A mariage that lasts over time is dependent upon loving, not necassarily being *in love* The same choice to hate, and or resent, primarily is due because one focuses on just the negative.
Oh how the candle still burns,, *Our *advesary* is somebody whom we love*
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Stephan,
You warned us it's long, so I guess I can't complaine about that. I'm sorry, as important as it is (I have a letter from my W too - from before we married), I can't figure it out.
When was the letter written?
Who left and why?
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I'm not exactly sure when it was wrote, some time before she left is all i know. My W left. Why? At one point it was like any and all reasons. For the longest time i have been accused, blamed, for anything, and everything. Flirting, not listening, talking bad about her,,,not wanting her, then pushing her, accused me of abusing her,,,,,, I'd listened to her threaten to leave,,time after time. Last week whike she was here, she mentioned about one of our court dates being on our wedding anniversary, she wants me to change it. She has also placed a PPO against me, so. This court date is set up from her, she is protesting the courts decision granting me custody of our children. She was here Sunday, while talking she said a few times, see, you still won't listen. She's accusing me of trying to force her back,,,and using our children for maybe the pawn pieces. She knows i want to save our marriage. While she was here, she was quite friendly, and it appears to be increasing,,?? She has hated me for quite some time now.
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Stephan,
My W is like that too - except she would never leave our child. I think you just have to somehow disengage. I'm glad you got the kids.
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If I where you, I would make a copy of her letter. Read it straight through taking special notes of her feelings not your replies. Than instead of modifying her letter make an original perhaps not so lengthy reply. Tell her you found the letter while you where packing tell her you don't know when she wrote it but that doesn't matter. You only care about the m. and if she decides not to read, that's ok too, but you have in fact stumbled across some of her deepest most intimate thoughts, you have absorbed them, and you find it only fair that she is given the opportunity to do the same with your thoughts if she's interested. I would not respond to any accusations or he did/said she did/said of the past. If your response stops the current proceedings you and W can talk about and work through all things, but whats most important is that her letter is evidence that there was a time when she loved you silly and you still do love her silly. Tell her, what the silly love means to you. And ask if it means anything to her. If it does you will know. Hope this is good advice. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />
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If I where you, I would make a copy of her letter. Read it straight through taking special notes of her feelings not your replies. Than instead of modifying her letter make an original perhaps not so lengthy reply. Tell her you found the letter while you where packing tell her you don't know when she wrote it but that doesn't matter. You only care about the m. and if she decides not to read, that's ok too, but you have in fact stumbled across some of her deepest most intimate thoughts, you have absorbed them, and you find it only fair that she is given the opportunity to do the same with your thoughts if she's interested. I would not respond to any accusations or he did/said she did/said of the past. If your response stops the current proceedings you and W can talk about and work through all things, but whats most important is that her letter is evidence that there was a time when she loved you silly and you still do love her silly. Tell her, what the silly love means to you. And ask if it means anything to her. If it does you will know. Hope this is good advice. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />
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Is there any kind of subtance addiction involved? Please, if there is.... one or both stop, your story shows you love each other but if a bottle or needle is involved it needs to stop.
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No substance of any what-so-ever, from either of us. We never drank anything, anywhere. No needles, no pipes, no nothing. My high was to be high into my wife, and family. I'm not exactly sure, what exactly do you mean modify her letter? Her letter is still her letter as she wrote it. All i did was add my thoughts,,,i didn't change anything about her letter?? The other night my 5 year old was telling me she's upset with mommy, she doesn't like seeing mommy hug this certain person. This OM is her first sons dad.
So, maybe its all just a waste of time.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> I'm not exactly sure, what exactly do you mean modify her letter? </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I meant instead of adding your comments, put your comments together to form your own letter. And make sure she has a copy of both so that she will know what your responding to. Actually, looking back it really doesn't matter weather you add comments or write your own. I don't think this is a waste of time. Stick your heart out there, don't worry about time, don't worry about OM. What do you have to lose?
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I emailed her recently, please give me your thoughts here, was i too nice, harsh, sick, (lol) These are the questions i asked her,
How did your first night go at your new job? If i'm intruding, or out of line in any way, then please disregard.
I will be calling the courts as you requested tomorrow, to reschedule the date. That is what you requested correct? Or did you want me to cancel? I would like to ask you, can we make any kind of arrangements, and or agreements? Can we get together that day? Did you want to get together that day? The world knows where i'm at with that,,,
If i offended you, or bothered you, in any way, you have my most sincere apology. My intentions are not to bother or upset you in ant way what so ever. Harrassing included.
Recently i came across a letter you wrote, some time before the seperation began. I've read it a few times now, each and every time, i cried. My God, i never knew you cared that much!! That was one of the things that was frustrating. I have always been so deep,(intoxicated) with caring and loving you,, with plenty other words that go along. God knows i have always admired my wife!! All the other approiate words included,
Wife's reply; Sorry I didn't reply to this yesterday morning. I'm a bit whipped and sore (remember your first days at place?) Yes, I have been wanting to make arrangements. So what do you have in mind? Please give me a call today after you get home. If I haven't heard from you by 2:00 I'll assume you haven't been online yet and I'll try calling you. I'm still not sure just how much i can or should trust her,, remembering she has the PPO against me. always remembering she is my wife, i choose to love her,,
What do i have to lose? She can have me jailed,,!!?? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />
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Hi Stephan,
What a beautiful heartfelt letter, and so are your comments back to her.
One thing I don't understand is, it looks as though she is hugging another man, as the child says. I feel so sad for you, and I see the love you have for her. Does PPO include talking on the phone or e-mails?
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PPO stated no communication, zero. During our meeting tiwh Friend of the court, she said we can communicate with each other only where the children are concerned. So, when i communicate with my W, regards to us, every time i wonder if i'm breaking it, although saving our marriage is children related. Am i abusing the PPO, going about it in a round about way? Using the marriage for a reason,,?? Does that make sense? I'm wondering why my W didn't reply to our children, regards to picking them up during the week days, leaves me wondering if i'm being set up. W has set me up in the past. I try to avoid such thoughts, but i sometimes wonder if i should remain cautious. I do not want to give her any ammunition,,, and it really saddens me, knowing now what a stbxw is capable of doing, im sure any stbxh is included. The saddest part is, that all a *father* represents, knowing it now means nothing, to what a *mother* even represents. Do you understand ? To each other. ?????? *SMILE* <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> *life is to short, to be so serious*
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Hi Stephan,
It probably would be a good idea not to have any contact with her. She could use any contact you have with her against you. Being she has a lawyer, he/she would definitely use that against you. She can use it as leverage in court against you. It makes me wonder why she wants you to postpone the court date. Please becareful. I wouldn't want to see you go to jail. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> Any lawyer would tell you the same thing. I'm sorry to say, but please wait til the PPO is lifted. Do you have a lawyer? If you can't afford one, you can be appointed one. You would have to go to the court house, and tell one in the office that you would like to apply for a court appointed lawyer.
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Postpone the court date had me wondering as well. I already knew i couldn't change this date, it was her protest deal. I did call the court, basically to confirm what i already knew. When i spoke with the court, i gave no numbers, name, nothing. Only asked the appropriate question. W emailed me today, with the following;
(H) I'm not sure where you are, reffering to tomorrow, are you going to reschedule?
(W) What? I don't understand the question.
(W) But...
The hearing has been adjourned until late August.
You and I need to come up with an agreement and put it in writing. We need to meet at
the attorney's office late next week and present our agreement with him. As long as it's something
we both agree on he will file it with the court.
The PPO can also be resolved of at that time.
(H) I have no intentions of any pressure to you, i attempted to do as your request. Called, explained the long distance to them per your request. To no avail. (ididn't explain, i played her game, and lied to her)
(H) If you could please keep me updated, if its not to much to ask. :-)
Otherwise, if i don't hear from you, i'll plan on tomorrow.
(W) I have offered you several suggestions in terms of a joint custody agreement. But
got no conclusive feedback from you. Please let me know what you had in mind, as
you said you had a few ideas. When I get your proposal I'll let you know what I think and
we can keep going from there.
We should probably try to get all of this figured out before Monday a.m. so that I
can call and make the appointment. So I'll also need to know what times are best
for you. You have classes until about 1:00 p.m. daily, right?
The computer has been tied up this afternoon and I had errands most of the morning. Sorry I didn't call you but I wasn't able to use the phone. I got a hold of (attorney) around 12:00 and he got everything in order. He was actually getting ready to call me because the court had called him in response to your call. He has contacted the court and requested that we adjourn for several weeks to allow you and I to come to a mutual agreement.
I think that's it. Please let me know what you're proposing as well as a schedule for next week. Thanks, (name)
I called the court back today. Asked them about calling the attorney, she stated they do not make those type of calls. I asked about our court date, she stated that it was cancelled. With no further date,,,
With the PPO, WW has broke this time after time, so i was actually prepared, had my documation all lined up, ready to go. All day today, i was beating myself up for this. I, her husband, found myself actually taking the necassary steps, from my *wife* !!! That i in turn was preparing myself to counteract back. This just does not seem right!! I just can't understand!?
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Sorry Stephen,
I'm having a difficult time understanding that also. Especially the next court date. She says it's at the end of Aug. and court told you it's been canceled, and no further court date...What I'm thinking is when a mutual agreement gets written up by you and her, then it is given to the lawyer, and he files it with the court, and another court date gets set at the time of filing.
It does sound like she has broke the PPO order many times.
What do you think about meeting her and talking to her (about the mutual agreement) with the PPO.
It does sound like she just wants a mutual agreement, as the lawyer stated. Makes it easier for the court to get everything done, without a fight.
I know this has to be so difficult for you wanting to be back together with her, and having to think about custody arrangements with the children, and mutual agreements for divorce is not your wish or desire. A mutual agreement of getting back together would be great!!!
Are the children with you?
You're right, it's so hard on the children too. You never realize how important each parents is to each child until something like this happens. All children love parents to be together. It is always their ultimate desire.
What do you think about everything that happened today?
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Stephan,
If you don't have a lawyer or you do and you are just not using him/her, you are an idiot. I hate to be blunt, but you have custody of the children for a reason. She has a lawyer, and you are going to get hosed if you don't or you are not using yours.
The PPO is serious stuff, stop communicating with her. She is using it to blackmail you as near as I can tell, and you should be fighting it. You know why? It will be on your record for ever, and anytime you apply for a job, or a position or want to voluteer the PPO can pop up.
Get good representation and use it.
God Bless,
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I'm sure in sveral ways i have been, and may be, an idiot. I have no lawyer. With PPO, Legal Aide refused, stating now i'm considered a criminal!!! I was fired in June! With the mutual agreement, from all of my WW lies, and false allegations, along with the facts that while she had temp. custody several times i was refused and or denied visitation.Right now, our little three year old becomes upset when its time to go with mommy, telling her *your mean* *your ugly* and refuses to get into her car. I reassure him its ok,,, I have no desire to agree in any mutual way. I was prepared to present my case to the judge. Besides the fact that i really don't know what to believe or trust from my WW. At this time any mutual agreement is out of the question. IF she drops this bogus PPO, then and maybe then i will attempt to agree, to something. The courts do not like lies. For years i allowed my W to walk, and maybe stomp all over me. Now i'm actually standing up to her. Is it the right thing to do? I sure in the he!! do not know. How did this make me feel? Somewhat angry. Once again more lies from her. A reminder that i shouldn't trust her. But i still allow myself to listen, and trust. I do not understand!? The amount of times i've been accused of trying to force her back, i've wondered if thats what she really wants me too do? My first demand is for her to drop the PPO, yet i wonder if maybe i should just hold out, wait for our day in court, present my side, along with FACTS. :-) I've wondered if i should demand some form of therapy, before i agree to any shared custody. Wonder if i should demand sessions with MC!? I wonder,,, The affects she has created, on all involved. Yhe innocent more importantly.
*the web we weave*
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Stephan, You should still be able to get a public defender. You have to apply for one at the court house. You really do need representation. Legal aid is different than public defender. It's a good thing you have time. Do not put any mutual agreements in writing until you have a public defender.
A public defender will fight for you. And will bring up in court your wish for W to get therapy before agreeing to any shared custody and why you feel that way. He will represent your side in a better way than you ever could.
I'm serious at this point don't talk to her. Stop all contact with her at this point. Get a public defender. It's free.
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Wait a minute. Do you have custody of the children and does she have a PPO against you?
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Yes i have custody, and yes she has a PPO against me. She left w/o children, one month later she said if we're this, and if we're that,,then i should do this and or that.. She did some more of her wonderful magic, lied, and recieved an ex-parte order giving her temp custody. On June 14 the courts granted me custody. This lady has hated me, and resented me,, three days later she was here, at our marital home, acting as though we were still friends. I asked her how she could do this, hate me for so long, three days later act like i'm human again, a human with feelings at that. Her reply was she was mad and upset.
I sure hope you are right about public defender!! I agree, i need represenation!! So far i have managed to do get this far on my own. As for todays hearing, all i was going to do was present the emotional side of things, with my heart included. Thats all i'd be able to do anyway. I have not responded to her last email, she called me this morning,,, is she breaking her own PPO??? Stated something about not hearing from me,,,, Weeks ago i contacted a lawyer, asked if i had to agree to or with my WW, she said absolutely not. To this day, i have no intentions. Yet!? In the court papers, she has first choice opposed to me having a babysitter, or daycare here. Each and every time i called her, asking if she wants the children for this day or that day, its been no EVERY time! I started thinking she was setting me up, after seven days, my last message was i will no longer be calling, i do not want to be accused of harrassing. The next day, we were talking, she said don't worry about it,., I was going to email her some sort of an acknowledgement of our annivesary,,,,LD??
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