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#758352 10/01/03 04:59 PM
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My Husband had an affair. He left me to be with her in Summer.
Fine, he wants to be with her, she can have him.
We are in the middle of speration/divorce agreements and I asked that he not be allowed to bring my children around her. I was told by the lawyer, I couldnt demand that.
IS THIS FAIR? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" /> Im in CA, does it make a difference?

#758353 10/01/03 05:17 PM
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Unfortuntely, NMM, there is very little that is fair when it comes to infidelity and subsequent divorce. The whole deal seems to stink for the BS.

I don't have any sage or legal advice to offer you because my Ex and I had no children. I'm sure another MB member will be along shortly to support your concern.

In the meantime, try to remember that you simply cannot control what they (WS and the OP) do. Their actions seem unconscionable at times, and you are normal to feel the anger you are experiencing. The most important thing to do is take care of you and your children as best you can and ride this out.

I'm sorry you find yourself here.

God Bless,
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#758354 10/01/03 07:26 PM
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Hi NMM,

No it isn't fair, because the father has the right to see the kids, and I guess he gets to pick the company they are in <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" /> .

How old are your kids? Mine are 10 7 and 6. My son did NOT want to spend time with the X if OW was there and we even had counselling over it. I asked my lawyer what to do about it because I did not want to force my son to see her if he did not want to, as the counsellor said son would see this as another betrayal (me not protecting him).

She told me that my son should not be forced to go, wrote to my X's solicitor and told them of the situation and we eventually agreed that son would make up his own mind. Son didn't go. Also here in Australia a parent can get into a lot of trouble for not allowing a child to go, as well as FORCING a child to go. So we managed to avoid all of that because we left it up to the son.

This situation arose because the CHILD did not want to go. Not because I did not want it (which I did NOT, but unfortunately that didn't count for much). Your kids might be happy to visit, or might be too young to make a decision, and then I guess they have to go.

But sometimes that can be a good thing, too. My X ended up only taking the youngest on a week's day holiday, and she was back with me in three days. They couldn't handle reality.

Love and light,

Jacky

#758355 10/02/03 11:12 AM
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Im in the US. It just kills me to think she is going to be around my children. I have 2 kids, 6 & 4. I dont want her to touch them. The thought of them with her makes me cry. I feel so helpless.

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" />

#758356 10/03/03 12:23 AM
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http://www.marriagebuilders.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=34;t=009939

I just wrote a post, that speaks to this, on a different thread. Believe me, *I* was sorely tempted to make things as rough on my x and the ow/wife as I possibly could. In the end, I made a different choice. One that after all these years, I am grateful for having made.

It's obvious that this is a bad situation. I know you want to "protect" your children from it. I firmly believe that if I'd followed my instinct to "protect" them, I would have done them far greater harm than them being exposed to the ow, ever could have.

If you, gracefully, accept the situation the way it is, there will be no reason for your x and his ?? to pull out all the stops to prove how wonderful they are. Oh yes, in the beginning, your children will be exposed to enormous amounts of propaganda, but if you show no interest in disproving it, the propaganda will cease sooner and the truth will come out faster. And your children will love you for not playing into the game.

My own children wouldn't cross the street to spit on her, if she was on fire. But, NOBODY can point to me and say it was my fault; that I turned the kids against her. Not only did I "support" her relationship with the kids, I practically shoved them down her throat. I figured if I gave my x and his ow ALL the time they wanted, without regard to the rules of visitation, the ow would eventually decide the kids didn't really fit in with her romantic fantasy. Look at it this way, right now the ow and your husband "bond" by pointing out that what you're trying to do, hurts them. Once you switch sides, and give the kids to your h whenever and for however long he wants them, your h begins to see you as the "better guy" and his ow starts to lose her luster because she's always complaining about not getting enough "alone" time.

By the time I wanted to move my children 3000 miles away from their dad, there was nobody getting in my way. The happy newlyweds had already had enough of "married, with children."

You're right. It isn't fair. But, the least amount of anger and angst that you can expose your children to, the happier they will be. They will probably even love you more for it, even if they can't put their finger on WHY.

My children have always talked about how wonderful it is that we are such a "close-knit" family. It seems to escaped their notice, entirely, that they are children of divorced parents. While they were growing up, even their friends would comment on how close we are. Their friends would say things like, "you don't know how lucky you are" and my children took great pride in that. What I'm trying to say, is that YOUR relationship with your children can thrive independently of the relationship between them, their dad and his ??. Instead of trying to thwart the relationship between the children and HER, work on strengthening their relationship with you.

Good luck to you. I know it's hard.

#758357 10/02/03 01:34 PM
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Wish I could post my whole story but way too long. I receintly filed for divorce and requested in the papers to not have my husband bring the children around his girlfriend. She had made some remarks to my children that were inappropriate and he was having the children sleep at her house,,,etc.... Anyhow the problem was she wasn't the only girlfriend there were many at the same time, and my attorney and I felt that it wasn't healthy for the children to be around alot of women with their dad sleeping around...get the jist??? Anyhow the judge approved it not only that, the children aren't allowed around any women friends of my husband and at this time he has no visitation, except by my grace.


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