I am rolling my eyes and laughing at the same time...

Alas, some people never change..

I come home from clinic and see an email sent to me via Jethro...it's unbelievable the idocacy of some foggy people I swear!! They actually believe the poo they shovel onto the world.

X sent me a response he's made to a "friend of his" and their seemingly ongoing debate that I guess Jethro's co workers know about...I didn't know about it until reading it...

Kinda like the third party arguements/disagreements goin on on this forum if ya know what I mean...execpt this one is about politics and the upcoming presidential election. Now those who do know me know of my preference and that I am an elected officer of my city/region's large young political group...I won't say which one but have a coffee mug that I got which proclaims me to be a charter member of the vast r.wing conspiracy...lol...

Anyway, A long long long time ago in a state not that far away from GA once lived a guy named Jethro who went to church with his family. He held traditional "family values" unlike the present "Family Values" he shacked up with...He was a different man and we both were in utter agreement spiritually and politically back then...but then came the "proverbial moral decline" and the discovery that Jethro thought he was a sex god or something...or got hit on the head during a church softball game very hard...I don't know what caused it but the decline hit...and I filed for divorce and ended up here fighting for my m but then realizing he suffered from a case of terminal fog..

Ok. I get this email which proclaims that Jethro is still supporting my political values and the party I staunchly and publicly support. I see this guy arguing my side of this issue to his coworker/friend (whatever in the heck this guy is) and then see how he has forwarded it to me...What? Am I supposed to feel what by this? After seeing his written response to this man and basically standing up for values he openly and freely shot down and tossed aside completely in his own life, I notice he's sent yet another forward to me...this time from another employee involved in this political arguement...this guy also taking the side of Jethro and the "traditional family values" side of the issues.

I am rolling on the floor giggling and laughing...Jethro also btw..got to see a photo of me and some of my fellow officers on New Years' eve (the night I think he eloped with Family Values, the butfloss wistress...) which was published in an ATL society magazine...and might I add that the peach looked very very good??? Ha.

Anyway Jethro has expended energy sending me this crapola and I did nothing but read it.

AND THEN CAME THE TON OF BRICKS...

I notice whom on the last email he's forwarded it to...this time there's a list of about fifteen email addresses...including the ADDRESS OF HIS PRESENT WIFE/BUTFLOSS WISTRESS, FAMILY VALUES...and as I eye the list I then soon after see the address of HIS PARENTS and then ME and then......

OHMIGOD!

MONKEYHO!!!!!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" />

What's this all about I ask you???

Simple. The jerk has never stopped being in contact with his "soul mate" who dumped him and left him because HE WOULDN'T GET A DIVORCE FROM ME FAST ENOUGH.

Egads. He's having a still ongoing EA (emotional affair) with the monkeyho still. I wonder if Dumbzilla, aka Family Values, has figures out that if you use the first letter of her first name and combine it with all the letters of her last name that the email her NEWLYWED SHOTGUN HUSBAND was sent to his XMISTRESS AND BITTER SEX RIVAL, MONKEYHO...

I am fondly reminded of the phone conversation (I am being sarcastic ok?) when FV calls me in late August/early Sept. to inform me that "she's left Jethro and that she's sick of staying home while he goes out partying all the time...she then tells me of his antics while attending parties with him...and the night of how MONKEYHO showed up at Jethro's house, suitcase in hand, thinking she was going to have a sexfest shackup party with Jethro and got her rendezvous point with Jethro confused as she wrongly showed up their and FV (alias dumbzilla) answers the door.

I don't know whether I should laugh or feel really bad for FV...but then again, she knew she was dating, shacking, screwing a married man with a child.

This reminds me of a song...I will google it and bleep one of the words in the lyrics but you'll get the drift...Ironically I heard it on 99x here on the way home from clinic and started laughing so hard I almost swerved into another lane...reminds me of my life...it's Offspring again and they're back with a song even more ironic and darkly comic about adultery and bad relationships...

"Spare Me The Details"

My girlfriend (or MY EX HUSBAND OR EX WIFE..YOU CHOOSE), my dumb donut
Went up to a party just the other night(LAST YEAR FOR ME)
But three hours later and seven shots of yager
She was in the bedroom with another guy

And I don't really wanna know
So don't tell me anymore
And I really don't wanna hear
About her feet all up in the air

And well I'm not the one who acted like a ho
Why must I be the one who has to know?
I'm not the one who messed up big time
So spare me the details if you don't mind

Now I can understand friends who wanna tell me
They think they're gonna help me, open up my eyes
But the play by play makes me wanna lose it
Everytime you do it man, it turns the knife

And I don't really wanna know
So don't tell me anymore
And I really don't wanna hear
About her feet all up in the air

And well I'm not the one who acted like a ho
Why must I be the one who has to know?
I'm not the one who messed up big time
So spare me the details if you don't mind

Now I don't need to hear about the sounds they were makin'
And I don't need to hear about how long it was takin'
Or how the walls they were shakin'

Now lying in bed wallowing in sorrow
Missin' the tommorow that we could of had
Running through my head, over and over
Things I never told her that just made me sad

And it drives me insane sittin with a vision
stuck with that image burned into my brain
And I feel so dumb that I could ever trust her
When someone else [censored]$d her (him), then walked away(or shacked up in my house)...

And I don't really wanna know
So don't tell me anymore
And I really don't wanna hear
About her feet all up in the air

And so I'm not the one who acted like a ho
Why must I be the one who has to know?
I'm not the one who messed up big time
So spare me the details if you don't mind

Cuz I don't wanna know
Don't wanna know
(Spare me the details if you don't mind)
Don't wanna know
(Spare me the details if you don't mind)
Don't wanna know...


Ahhhhh.

The Offspring. My band. My thoughts exactly... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

"

<small>[ February 25, 2004, 03:21 AM: Message edited by: LoveMyEx ]</small>

Well...

I am not here for religious purposes ...

And I don't have to do anything to get it..seems it happens on its own.

So many people worry about what happens to their x and OP...I know what will happen...

Unless they stop doing the same things they did in their relationships, then they will never be happy and sorry...but both OW deserve this. I truly feel sorry for the child about to be born, but the parents were irresponsible and stupid and this is the result when you don't honor your promises and your family.

You and I usually don't see eye to eye so what's the purpose here? I don't need a response.
I went thru a hellish nightmare to get to the point I am at. I survived domestic abuse and got through it. I suvived almost losing everything I own materially. I survived a ton more than I would EVER POST HERE ABOUT BTW...

Have I gotten a bit more ironic lately? Maybe. But that's the way I deal with things. I am ironic. If you don't know that by now then you never will so don't post to me about any religious dogma..

We're on different fence sides usually and I don't seem to see you starting many posts or getting stuff out there about you but that's not my concern. My concern is that if you don't like what you read and don't have or had any good advice or stuff for me in the past.

You like to kinda find fault and that's ok. Your way.

But I like who I am now just fine. I laugh alot. People around me like the new me much more and I don't really care what those who do not...I REPEAT...DO NOT KNOW ME AT ALL think about me..

So..your words unfortunately don't really inspire me to do anything at all...

I suggest getting a sense of humor and learning to laugh at the lemons life gives you.

Thanks, but no thanks as again and as usual.

Hold on!

LMX ...you're the one who accused me of being "dangerous" aren't you? LOL..

in fact...LMAOROFT.

Yea.

I remember you. You've posted not alot of help but alot of stuff (brown and smelly) to me before...so why waste that precious time?

If I were to take revenge...which I DO NOT and WILL NOT...it would be funny.

You posted stuff to me about my character that was borderline defamation of character when you it seems do not know me at all...

So get off this post ok? We don't see eye to eye and you don't offer anything of value. You say meanspirited things like "I don't see a stitch of God in your posts. Not even a hint.
You want revenge and you want it bad. That is one thing that is very clear. I hope you find whatever it is you are looking for, but at what cost... well, only time will tell I guess. "

And time is telling my dear. I am doing well. I am very, very sane, non dangerous, and laughing and smiling more day by day. My status with my CREATOR is fine. But that's between He and I ok? Not your business. Yea, time is telling and it's getting better day by day.

So for the last time, I bid you adieu. BTW...that's French for GET OFF THIS THREAD.

Peachy, you say you're not here for "religious purposes" but yet I have seen you many times say "Pray for me" and talk about church or God or prayer.

You said, "I went thru a hellish nightmare to get to the point I am at." So have alot of people here. That is not said to diminish your pain, but there are alot of hurting people and it's not a competition over who has survived the worst stuff.

You said, "My concern is that if you don't like what you read and don't have or had any good advice or stuff for me in the past." I have had good advice for you in the past but you have become defensive or rejected it. Your rejection of it does not make it bad advice. The quality of someone's advice is not a matter of whether or not the person hearing it likes it or listens to it. You are obviously free to reject it, as I know you have and will, but it certainly doesn't make it bad advice.

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">So for the last time, I bid you adieu. BTW...that's French for GET OFF THIS THREAD.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">There are many people who don't post to you because you have told them to "get off my thread." It's happened many times. Either you or another poster (there's a few who come to your "defense" like a mother to a child) will rail into the poster and say the same thing, "get out." And a few times, you've become so angry, that you have stated, "I am never coming back here." I've seen that at least two times. Yet, here you are. Have you ever examined this type of response and asked yourself why you get so angry over posters who tell you things that you don't like to hear? Perhaps you should consider your emotional response.

Just a thought...

<small>[ February 25, 2004, 03:19 AM: Message edited by: LoveMyEx ]</small>

HOW'S the therapy going, justpeachy?

And now for something completely different.

It's just bad e-mail etiquette to send mass e-mail to a bunch of people and make their addresses visible to others.
You might share with him that some people may not want their e-mail address going to a dozen or so strangers or near-strangers.

You certainly don't want to know who he is sending these messages to besides you. So introduce him to the Bcc or Blind Courtesy Copy.
He can put himself down as the recipient and then list the others as Bcc recipients.

Just good netiquette

Tony

WHY IN THE HECK DO YOU POST TO ME ANYMORE? You must not speak French (lol).

Anyway, I was editor of my hs newspaper and our sponsor always said "consider the source".

I have.

You're writing words to who here? Not me. Do you get a kick outta writing to somebody that doesn't want to hear from you? Not sure what your motiviation is but I DO NOT CARE.

Let's see...this source...YOU> You said once that I was "dangerous" and implied very very damaging things about my character and other things that if written to me by somebody via either email or written mail would illicit a response from my attorneys for defamation of character.

It's not about whether your advice is good or bad..I DON'T WANT IT AND YOUR POSTING TO ME DOES NOTHING AT ALL EXCEPT WASTE YOUR TIME AND MY TIME WHICH IS PRECIOUS...
Your advice doesn't even relate to me and you don't know a bit about me. You may think you do and personally I think it may be you who has a problem with revenge or something because there is absolutely NO reason for you to post to me in the future ever. Or maybe just some sort of problem in general...

I find it distasteful when you say anything about my spiritual life. My relationship with God isn't for you to know a damn thing about. Remember the Sanhedrin? Yea..they were all about religion too and passing down judgements on others...

I WILL ASK YOU GENTLY AS I AM NOT GOING TO BE HERE TO ANSWER YOU ANYMORE...I HAVE THINGS TO DO...FOR EXAMPLE, I AM GOING TO CHUCKIE CHEESE WITH MY SON...A WORTHWHILE ENDEAVOR VS. WRITING TO YOU.

I don't know how more obvious I have to be or how much more in your face I have to be to get you off all of my thread ok?

Take issue with somebody else.

Or better yet, get a real name and change it to something besides LMX...most of us here are about moving on and starting a new life.

Or get brave and POST ABOUT YOUR LIFE FOR A CHANGE INSTEAD OF SPOUTING OUT A CHAIN OF WORDS THAT DON'T ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING EXCEPT ALLOW YOURSELF TO SEE THE WORDS YOU'VE WRITTEN. THEY HAVE NO VALUE TO ME. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

There she goes again...

blah blah blah

I am writing my response and there comes the pointless words.

I quit here because I got angry and went to the moderator because of the crap you wrote about me that was slanderous.

I don't care what you think and don't want you posting to me.

Get off this thread and amuse yourself somewhere else. I am outta here as there's stuff to do...pizza to much/

And venting is good therapy Liliane...but this isn't a vent.

It was about showing how WS will keep it up and if anybody could remember, about a year ago my buddy Orchid came up with an analogy...the "car wreck waiting to happen/WS analogy". It's dead on accurate.

That's hilarious btw...email manners. Good suggestions...

I don't think JEthro would get it though.

I'm reluctant to jump in here (I am a lurker, not a poster) but Peachy I hope you do take a moment to think about the tone and content of your posts. It can be enlightening to get feedback on how others interpret your posts. If someone has pointed out that you seem dangerously preoccupied with your x and his new relationship, and that your reactions are sometimes disproportional, no one has slandered you. Perhaps there is a history here that I am unaware of, but I recall several other posts where you have extreme reactions to people's seemingly well-intended criticisms. Have you thought about why?

You seem, understandably, still beaten down by and recovering from your difficult divorce. Lots of us here have suffered through difficult situations. I am happy for you and your son to be finding your way out. And I am glad that you take advantage of resources like this board. But clearly you have got some issues remaining. If someone points that out to you, I can understand why it is difficult to hear but maybe you'll soon be in a position to evaluate it fairly. Have you thought about self-esteem issues may be contributing to your sometimes irrational reactions?

When people, especially women, lack confidence in themselves they often try to translate positive feedback from others into genuine self-esteem. I see it frequently with women and girls who have a problem with eating disorders in particular. (I'm not at all suggesting that you have an eating disorder, I'm just drawing a comparison.) Have you noticed your need to inform us all how attractive, intelligent and accomplished you are? Please don't think I'm jealous, or that I doubt you are all those things. I'm sure that you are a kind person with many wonderful attributes. But you seem to "toot your own horn" quite a bit, and resort to repeating other people's compliments and favorable remarks about you. For example, in just this post, you say:

"Now those who do know me know of my preference and that I am an elected officer of my city/region's large young political group..."

"Jethro also btw..got to see a photo of me and some of my fellow officers on New Years' eve (the night I think he eloped with Family Values, the butfloss wistress...) which was published in an ATL society magazine...and might I add that the peach looked very very good??? "

"I went thru a hellish nightmare to get to the point I am at. I survived domestic abuse and got through it. I suvived almost losing everything I own materially. I survived a ton more than I would EVER POST HERE ABOUT BTW..."

"People around me like the new me much more"

"Anyway, I was editor of my hs newspaper..."


Again, I'm sure you are all those things. But constantly needing the reassurance, constantly reminding everyone of your good qualities, disproportional reactions to minor disagreements/differences of opinion, borderline obsession with your ex and his new wife, vilification of Jethro and victimization of yourself, and the "no one knows what I've gone through so don't tell me I'm wrong" attitude... all that is evidence of either an overwhelming self-absorption (not healthy) or masking a very low image of yourself (also not healthy).

I write my observations not to be unkind, or to make you even more uncertain about yourself. I only hope you'll see that not everyone who disagrees with you is attacking you, and your efforts to improve yourself may be better served by caring less about your ex-husband. You may benefit from IC, if you are not already pursuing that option.

Best regards

I haven't posted in a long time mainly because I haven't felt like I had anything worthwhile to offer anyone. I am, however, still a daily lurker!

Peachy please correct me if I'm wrong but I don't recall you asking for anyone's advice or opinion in your original post. As a matter of fact I didn't get the impression you were asking for nor necessarily expecting a response from anyone.

This board is a public forum and I too disagree with many poster's advice and opinions on here. I don't, however, feel the need to jump in and try to analyze a person's character or demeaner. Why do some people feel the need to rain on other people's parades just because they don't happen to agree with their state of mind or motives?

Peachy I say write whatever you want, whenever you want. Whether I or anyone else agrees with you or not is not the issue... does posting help you? If so then your post is a success!

Probably shouldn't add this but... I couldn't help but laugh my butt off at just how stupid Jethro is... mainly because he reminds me a lot of my ex. Wow that fog sure is a powerful infliction isn't it? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" />

Man, this guy is a piece of work. I think you can be very grateful you are away from him. Maybe the aliens will come back and get him sometime soon.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Again, I'm sure you are all those things. But constantly needing the reassurance, constantly reminding everyone of your good qualities, disproportional reactions to minor disagreements/differences of opinion, borderline obsession with your ex and his new wife, vilification of Jethro and victimization of yourself, and the "no one knows what I've gone through so don't tell me I'm wrong" attitude... all that is evidence of either an overwhelming self-absorption (not healthy) or masking a very low image of yourself (also not healthy).

I write my observations not to be unkind, or to make you even more uncertain about yourself. I only hope you'll see that not everyone who disagrees with you is attacking you, and your efforts to improve yourself may be better served by caring less about your ex-husband. You may benefit from IC, if you are not already pursuing that option.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">

Hey, everyone. I am making a personal request that this stop.

I know peachy, and she can be a flamboyant, exhuberant person at times especially regarding Jethro. However, in all fairness, he is so foggy he really reaps what he sows. I think if you were to take most of peachy's ramblings with a "tongue-in-cheek" attitude, I think you'd see them closer to her intended meaning.

At the same time, I also know that one of peachy's big issues (especially regarding Jethro) is that her boundaries were not respected. I do not know why peachy and LoveMyEx seem to rub each other the wrong way, but they do. So, LoveMyEx I am appealing to your sense of honor and asking you directly to just respect peachy's wishes on this thread. She set a boundary and asked for you not to post, and this particular thread is one that she started. I think it would go a long way to show peachy that someone can disagree with you yet still respect your boundaries.

Please let's stop, right now, with this post and all walk away.


CJ


P.S. Peachy, this latest revelation with Jethro and OW#1 does not surprise me in the least. As you know, if a WS does not see the error of their ways and change, then they will remain the same. That I can tell, Jethro has not changed one iota and will probably do to Miss FV exactly what he did to you--and most likely with OW#1. I don't feel very sorry for FV (after all, she destroyed your family) and yet, I have to admit that it's sad that nothing was learned and now a new baby is being brought into all this mess too. I doubt if FV is in ANY way equipped to bring up two children on her own and be a responsible parent.

It looks to me as if everyone loses: Jethro, OW#1, FV, her child, the baby, you and your son. Sad, but not unpredictable.

I have edited/deleted some of my comments to peachy. This thread is, in all honesty, very disturbing.... both the initial post and the almost "violent" enraged reactions to my comments. I will join others from the past in saying that I don't want to be a part of this post or any future peachy posts; however, I do want to explain.

I can't quite put my finger on it, but the reactions, the posts, the way people often "baby" Peachy... it's truly disturbing. I know that no counselor or therapist would see it and call any of it healthy. I'm not sure why some here view it as "healthy."

Yes, I do see an obsession that could be "dangerous." There is alot of rage in peachy's posts. Maybe a moderator could help her? Someone with some professional experience in counseling.

I cannot quite put my finger on it all and I know that I am not the only one who sees what I see.

Below is an old post that was posted months ago by someone else (not me) back on a peachy thread in which several people tried to help Peachy see the things Carlajo mentioned. Those people were all accused of being the other woman (myself included), of being the same person posting under different name, and/or of being peachy "haters." They were told not to post to Peachy or were threatened with "I'm going to report you." Needless to say, they all decided to stop posting to Peachy.

Nothing has really changed since then except that all of those people have since avoided peachy's posts. And it is a shame because they all had constructive, insightful things to offer and were doing so out of concern.

It seems to me that peachy is looking for one thing here and that is validation of her feelings and for others to join in on the Jethro and OW stoning fest. As long as that happens, she appears to be happy with her time here. When a person says something like, "Peachy, he's a loser," then all is well. But if it doesn't happen and someone points out things they see (such as obsession, anger, self-pity...), all hell literally breaks loose. I am not the only one who has experienced the wrath of peachy or her "friends" and I am not the first to be told to not post to her. And I doubt that I will be the last.

I have seen other posters throughout the MB board become defensive or offended by someone's posts, but not on such a consistent basis as peachy and not in such a volitile manner.... and I suppose that that is part of what is "disturbing."

A past copied below (posted mos. ago by someone else):

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">There are a few things that I don't understand here. First, how come every time peachy doesn't like what someone says she tells them not to post to her anymore? I am sorry but that reminds me of my daughter trying to cover her ears when I say something she doesn't like. Most are just calling it as it is written. That is not attack.

Another thing I don't understand is why peachy situation is considered worse than others going through separation or divorce? I could tell of all the things my husband and in-laws did to me, I could tell of how awful it was to lose my home and be homeless. I did start out like this but praise God, He put people in my life and I saw my sin and turned from this over time. That is when I truly began to heal and grow. I have read and story that are a lot worse here. She has a good home and a large amount of child support. Many don't have that. So I don't understand all the attention needed here. There are people with really big problems.

Many here have been hurt and abused. I know peachy was hurt. But who can say she has been hurt any worse than anyone else. I feel for her, not because of what has happen to her but, I feel for her because she is not growing. She is stuck up in the "poor me" game.

Everyone here has been hurt. Everyone has a story to tell. There are all kinds of betrayals.

By the way, she has also ask me not to post to her. I wonder how many are in this club. But I am posting to the rest of you. It feels great to surround yourself with people that agree with you. But isn't that what the wayward spouse does also? Just because it feels good doesn't make it right or good for you.

Yes, I have read her story from the beginning. I pray for her often. I pray for her healing. I am sure God is working. I pray she is free soon. Again, I know she has been hurt, but her story is not the worse story told or that could be told.

I also don't understand why when people post to her, other come back and ask if the poster is the OW. If not this, then they have registered a new name and post under it. No one else gets all this attention. That should say something.

I am sure I will be ask not to post again. That is all right. It will just confirm the denial and enabling here. If this post is considered an attack then so be it. To me none of this makes sense.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">

<small>[ February 25, 2004, 04:25 AM: Message edited by: LoveMyEx ]</small>

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I don't want to be a part of this post or any future peachy posts. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I have to ask... then why do you still keep posting?

Im curious as to why he is still sending you emails at all. I thought this issue was hashed out previously..like maybe 6-12 months ago.

Block him

You dont need him sending you email for anything..it allows him to just step in with contact whenever he wants..and its not good for you as evidenced in this thread.

Its not for emergency purposes as I know you have a child. You are well respected in your profession, there are cell phones and other means to reach you immediately if there is some issue regarding your son.

His email to you., and your acceptance of it is just outright CONTACT.....

Just as sure as Faith-4-me is still in contact with her ex...contact is not helping your healing.

Sorry.. But still big smiles for you <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

Have a good day ( I have week of vacation!!!) Spending it making my life better.
Dawn

<small>[ February 25, 2004, 06:37 AM: Message edited by: sunrise1 ]</small>

... coming soon to a theatre near you - opens in Atlanta next month!

'Two Monkeys, Dumzilla & One Maiden Take On Atlanta'
heheheheeeeee
Harold
the city will never be the same again.

Peachy, stop opening yourself up to this crap.
You are still enmeshed with J.

Do you want to be like Faith4me and her X in 2 years, or 5 years.
STOP IT!
Block him for your own sake.
And look at why you continue to open yourself up to it. I suggest counseling!

God bless you Peachy, but you sway from doing great to getting sucked back in and fight his control all along.

BOUNDARIES!