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OW attended daughter's softball game because X is helping coach.
My daughter says to me yesterday, did you see the woman..... standing by you, well that's OW's daughter's babysitter.
I was stumped! Why would she come stand by me, unless..... OW pointed me out maybe??? But, then I think, why the games?
I have made no bumps in X's or OW's life, other than the fact they are invisible to me. I don't acknowledge them.
Would it not seem like I would be more the person that would be pointing her out to someone case being she is the one that intruded in my marriage the last two years of it??
The question lingers in my mind, what is the point??
Another question I have is this. Anyone else have an X that brings the kids unannounced by my home while it is his time? I feel like he is trying to trip me up. As if the kids will catch me in the act of whatever. (In his mind). I have moved to a different home. One which we did not share together while we were married. He makes himself fully comfortable in it. He has strolled in, used the bathroom, and opens the garage and goes in. What are any thoughts on this? I have a hard time with it. He has moved in with his woman, and I have never so much as parked in their driveway. Nor have I ever, taken the kids to him when I have them, which is 80% of the time.
Any thoughts?? Love to hear. K
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Hi K-
It has been too long and I have been wondering how you are doing.
Since I don't know these people specifically I would have to say that both your XH and the OW have issues with curiosity on where you stand.
The OW could have had the sitter move near you in hopes of hearing you bad mouth them, or divulge something about yourself, who knows. I would say it was a case of hoping to eavesdrop on the chance they might get something.
As for your XH. I have had the same issues with my XH in the past although I have remained in the marital home. I would guess that there is a part of him that hates to have you move on so he invades your time and privacy in hopes of keeping abreast of where you are with things. My XH still flips when he hears of things going well for me. He hates the idea that he is no longer in control. I am assuming the same thing of your XH. You know it is one thing for them to move on, it is quite another for us to do it.
You need to set some boundaries. Explain to him that when your daughters are with him that he should not be bringing them by unannounced and that he is not allowed to simply walk into your house. He gave up those rights when he divorced you.
These things will get better with time, but your setting boundaries will definately help you. You are control of your life you must set your boundaries.
How is everything else going? What did you decide on the dating thing?
I am still up to my neck in custody stuff. See my post if you'd like.
Don't be a stranger!
Take care and God bless! K
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Hi Still, and thank you for thinking about me.
I have been reading posts pretty much daily, but I don't always feel I have the right things to say.
I think you are right though. I think boundaries do need to be set. I annoys me to no end when he does these pop ins, but at the same time I never want my girls to feel the are imposing. They are first in my life. I can't imagine him giving a flying fig about my anything in my life after a two year affair, and telling me he loved her so much and couldn't live without her. So it's hard for me to imagine that he would be so curious about me, but, you could be right on!
As far as the dating thing. I still am going out with the same guy. I have about come to the conclusion that there is a piece missing, on my part. He is so taken with me though, it makes me feel bad. And I don't mean this in a snobby way. I can truly tell that this man is in love with me. There are feelings there on my part for him as well, but as far as forever, I'm not seeing it.
There are small things about him that annoy me. They are not major, but I let them bother me. That to me must mean I'm not ready for a relationship. He has treated me far better than my X did in 18 years of marriage, and I feel blessed for that.
I think I will have to break it off with him in the near future, but I know it will be a hard break. I guess thats why we BS's are told not to get in to a relationship too soon. More heartache!
How are you doing? Sounds like your still having struggles with the X. It never ends I'm convinced.
I have had zero contact with my X for about 2 months now. I think I wrote about what he tried to do with the income tax refund, and how I blew up. Ever since then, he has not spoken to me. I think his honey got mad at him for giving in to me. I don't feel hate for him or her, but I'm not ready to have a relationship with them either. Time heals all, I hope!
Thank you again for being kind, and thinking of me. That made me feel good.
Take care or yourself K!
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Hi again Still--
Just thought I would throw this in. Last night was my daughters b-day. X and OW stop by the house. Daughter asks if they can come in, I said I would rather they didn't. (come on, how gracious do I have to be to the two of them) She takes her gifts to the door, and OW has her head in the door being very chatty with daughter.
I'm wondering, do these affair people have any shame at all? I have to believe if I would have been the one to do this, that I would never go to the X spouses home and act like I'm welcome.
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Hi K-
I don't even know where to begin. You have to keep in mind that a lot of what our XH's do can be linked to the fog so why we even try to make sense of it is beyond me, but then again, as rational people how can we not try to make sense of it? I too question how can my XH, who has repeatedly treated me like garbage and thrown me aside, still be concerned with what I am doing, I mean come on he left me, but it never ceases to amaze me how he hones in on every little detail. I have friends who firmly believe that every thing my XH does to me is in an effort to remain in control of me and keep me tied to him and unable to move on. Newsflash, I'm beyond moving on! I do believe that wayward spouses in general are so far gone that they have this irrational idea that although they have moved on, that we are eternally theirs. It is very screwed up, but I have seen it so often that I do think it is true.
I am sorry about the position they put you in on your daughter's birthday as well. It is your house and he needs to respect that. It was also your time with her and he needs to respect that as well. That is where the boundaries come in and it was good that you stuck to them. If need be you can explain it to your daughter the best that you can that your house is not his and you are not comfortable with him in it, but then again it may be better to just drop it. She is still pretty young. My XH and I have the agreement that the kids' birthdays are for whichever parent they happen to be with. Of course my XH has tried a couple of things similar to what your's just did, overall he has been more likely to call and ask if he can take them and then trying to make me out to be the bad guy when I say no. I would assume that this is what your XH was doing. Sure he can say he just wanted to be with her, but he could have called her and reminded her that he couldn't wait to celebrate when he saw her. Of course your daughter was stuck in the middle and that was not fair of him.
I don't know what to tell you about the dating thing. I have readjusted my attitudes to be a lot more open of different types of people, the whole you might miss the perfect person if you are too narrow minded idea, and I also believe that good people are hard to come by and therefore you should give things time. However, I am a true believer in love and chemistry. I think it is totally possible to find a good person whom you are totally attracted to and in love with. For whatever reasons whether you aren't ready or maybe you are just insecure due to your XH's affaif, it sounds like you're not there with this guy. I feel for you though, as I was always better at being dumped than doing the dumping.
Another thought is that maybe you just are comfortable with where you are. You are older and wiser. You have survived one of the most unbearable things a married person will ever have to endure and you are still standing. You may simply be reveling in your new found you and need to take life for what it is. I really don't know. I am definately not a relationship expert. I am with a wonderful man, I love him dearly and we get along so well, however, we live far enough apart that although we talk daily, we can only see eachother on weekends and occasionally not even then. I used to hate it and long for more, but as I go on and accept things for what they are, I have found myself wondering if that is why things go so well. It is like I have the best of both worlds. I have love, but I have independence. I have been finding myself questioning lately what I would do if we ever were able to be together in the same town. Do I really want that? I thought I did, but now I am wondering. Has the affair and my divorce because of it left me permanently scarred?
Well, now I am babbling. Keep setting those boundaries and keep doing things for you and the girls. Your XH gave up a really good thing when he left don't ever forget it!
Take care and God bless! K
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Hey Still--- You said some real important things to me, that made sense. For instance, being comfortable with where I am. I think I am. I feel totally okay with being alone, as far as a relationship. I never thought the whole time I was married that I could do this, but I have learned so much different. I think also for me, I have guilt. I still do not like to be in public with the guy I'm dating. He is handsome, dresses nice, is clean, but it's awkward. I feel like I'm doing something wrong. He is so good to my girls, and myself, I do wonder WHY would I pass this up. At the same time though, I think, now I'm talking for the rest of my life, make it a good choice.
I think your situation is ideal. I know for me, I look forward to the times he travels which is usually one week out of each month. I love the time for myself, and the girls. It's so strange, because all the years I was married, I hated for my H to travel. I guess I have grown/matured.
I appreciate your responses. I do wonder if my X does think that a part of him still has a hold on me. I can't imagine it, being as you said, they threw us out like trash. But, like you also said, we can not figure them out.
I hope you have a good weekend. Hope the weather is good where you live. We have had so much rain it's crazy.
Thank you again for your thoughts. It's helpful to me, your a kind person.
Talk to you soon. K.
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Hi again K-
My youngest just had a bad dream and so after I got her settled I felt compelled to check here and found your response.
You are newly divorced and so I imagine the idea of your husband still having feelings or a hold on you seems unbelievable, but I would bet that I am more correct than you think. No matter what has happened the two of you have a past and two children. Those bonds run pretty deep. Think too of the breaks in the fog where reality sets in, how can they not think of what they've given up? Then again a lot of it simply goes with control, I think the WS has a huge issue with this. When they have the affair they are in control, it is very ego building. Think of it, think back to how hard you fought to save your marriage. Think of what it had to be like for our husbands to have not one, but two women totally gushing all over them. Of course the OW's were new and infatuating, but if you were anything like me, you put everything you had into saving your marriage and your XH ate it up. Can you say Cake eater? Fast forward to the present. We have been forced to move on and we have. The problem for them is that they got so used to us fighting for the marriage that they built up this little fantasy that we'd do it forever, they just don't get that we too are capable of moving on and they are compelled to find out as much about it as they can, just like when we found out about their affairs. I know I wanted to know everything. Of course I really didn't, but I was compelled to do it anyway. Do you understand where I'm coming from?
Then there is the issue of where you're at with yourself. The other day someone had started a thread on women over 40 seeking divorce more than men and I think it relates to both of us even though we weren't the ones who had the affairs or sought the divorce. I think the reality of it is that although we didn't want this, we survived it to find that we can do this. I think that too many women find themselves believing that they are dependent on their husbands and then as they mature they realize either on their own or through the course of a divorce as we have that we are fully capable of handling our own lives.
This doesn't go to say that we don't want love and don't need assistance with things, but overall we have learned the hard way that we are complete, that we alone can make ourselves complete. It can be a totally overwhelming relization, at least for me, because for the most part society raises us to believe we are now whole if we are not part of a couple.
I also believe that after an affair and a divorce although we are happy with ourselves there is still the self doubt that someone else could actually be happy with us. I believe it goes with the pain and self doubt the affair inflicts. I still struggle with this and I have been divorced a lot longer than you. This is a tough scar to heal.
After I wrote you earlier I thought about my situation. In many ways it is ideal for me, at least for now. I have spent the last year yearning for something more. I had this whole idea that if I could move to be with him on a daily basis everything would be better. My XH has the right to fight the move because of the distance and he said he would. For a variety of reasons I decided to not even push the issue. With this acceptance I came to realize that I really wasn't wanting to move other than to be with my BF and this in it's own could have led to major problems. On the other hand, my BF can't move here for job reasons at least for the near future, so we are stuck, but I am okay with it. It is weird, I thought I wanted something so badly, but now I can't have it and I am okay. It had me doubting my feelings, but tonight as I talked to him I realized that my feelings are definately there, I just have some insecurities. I think the distance is good for me right now. It is nice to be in love and know that I have someone who feels the same way. It is also so nice to be able to trust someone and be trusted. I truly think I will end up with this man, but I suddenly realize there is no need to rush it. It is a very good feeling.
You have a good weekend too. I don't know where you are from, but I am from WI and it has been pretty wet here too. We are heading south tomorrow to go see my BF and it is even wetter in the southern part of WI where he lives. Luckily there is a lot more to do down there so it should be fun. Do you have any big plans?
I also teach and only have one week of school left so I am totally swamped with end of the year stuff. It really never ends!
I really enjoy talking to you, you help me put a lot of things into perspective.
Take care and God bless! K
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Hey again to you K--
Wow, you were up in the wee hours!
Hope you have a safe trip, and a great weekend away. I had a sleepover for my daughter last night, it was her B-day. We have a picnic to go to on Sunday afternoon, other than that, nothing else big.
Now, remind me, how long is it again that you have been divorced? I'm thinking 3 years, but not sure. You are so insightful! You are so helpful to me, and give me a different view of how to think. And to think I went to counseling, never did I get this out of that.
You are so right. I don't feel like X has any feelings. In my mind, he has his woman, and his life, which is very much all about him, and him only. I can't fathom the thought that he would EVER look back. We truly have two great girls. They are both well behaved, considerate, caring.. I could go on. In that respect, I feel sorry for him that he is missing out on them. But, I never seem to see any regret. I would love to see the FOG lift though, and hear that he messed up. That would mean so much to me. You are so right, I begged like a fool for him not to leave us. And I went to counseling crying my heart out. None of it made a difference. All he ever said was that she was all he wanted, and he counted live without her.
You're so right again, we have overcome this huge change, and we are living, and possibly even happy. I know, looking back now, I wouldn't have been happy if I were still married to him. To live without knowing if he was with her or not would have been a slow death. He also has a flirtacious side to him. To see him now in action almost makes me laugh. And to have no pain from his actions is wonderful! When I see this side of him, I think to myself, hey sweety, he's all yours! You won the prize!!
Right again, I was so, so dependent on my spouse. I wouldn't dream of going to things alone and feeling comfortable. I have done this, at feel totally at ease. My dauthers games, concerts, programs, dinners, whatever, it's fine with me.
I wish we lived closer. I would love to go to lunch with you. I think I could talk to you for hours! I unfortunately do not live anywhere near you. I'm in WV.
Thank you again for your thoughts. I appreciate everything that you say. Your friend, K.
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Hi Ladies,
I hope you don't mind if I sneak in here for a bit.I just wanted to say that reading both your posts has been very encouraging to me.I usually post over on the GQII board but I am sure I may be over here one day soon.
I wanted to say that I also believe in the control issues.My WH is knee deep in his adultery still but finds the time to sneak a peek at me whenever he can.He does think that I am going to be around eternally waiting for him too and only recently has become aware of how serious I am about proceeding with a D.
Do I want one? Heck no but I have been at this for the last 8 months,pretty much alone in trying to salvage my marriage,so I am at the end of my rope.I hope that before the gavel hits the wood in court my WH will wake up and get a clue to what he is about to lose but if not,then I know that I tried my best and he never really cared enough about me anyway since this all started.
If and when this D happens,my WH will not be allowed on the property without my permission.We bought our dream home about 18 months ago and he doesn't seem to care about losing that anymore either.So if my WH EVER showed up on my doorstep with the homewrecker,she wouldn't make it off the property without a limp! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" />
The difference between my WH and I,and a glaring one that is much more apparent now,is that HE needs a LOT of attention from all sorts of people.It's almost like an obsession.When he started this A,he was constantly e-mailing people and on his cell phone.It was ridiculous.It was like he couldn't just be silent and still.For me,I have always been very confident and strong and my own person.I am an "only" child so I am very comfortable being alone(read not lonely,there's the difference).I know what I want,who I am and really don't have any baggage so this journey to me,is a big case study of my WH and what he is going through.
Anway,thanks for letting me chime in.Hope that was ok.Kudos to you both for making it through one of life's most difficult and painful crises.
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You most welcome here October!
Sound to me like your WH has a lot to lose, I hope he wakes up, and soon!
It was a one way street for me. I'm not saying I was the perfect wife. I didn't stroke my X's ego continually which I think is what he needed. He very much likes to be the center of attention, and I couldn't stand that side of him. So, I didn't feed his ego. His own brother says that my X is ver self centered. But, when it came to saving my marriage, I was the one doing everthing I could to do just that. We went as a couple to 3 different counselors. All of which he told he was in LOVE with this person, and he knew what he was doing. I continued on my own in counseling, and eventually I gave up on our marriage.
I kept hanging on, because my X wouldn't say he wanted a D, I think he loved the idea of two women in love with him, (I can see that now, didn't then).
My X moved out of our home and wouldn't tell me for 2 months what it was he wanted. I would ask him about a D, he would say, he didn't know if that was what he wanted. One day, he finally said, that's the path I'm taking. That was it. I filed within a week.
I really wonder if these WS's know how deep they hurt their families. I know in my case, I don't think mine does. He and her for that matter, act like they have done no wrong. They are the two proudest people I have ever seen.
I think which ever path your marriage takes, you sound incredibly strong, and you will survive. So many of us on here can't imagine going on, because we don't have that confidence in ourselves. You are step ahead already.
You know, for me, I would have lived and done anything if my X would have stayed. But today, I know that the D was the only option. To think that he would still be prowling around on me, would not be fare at all to me. And who was I think that I didn't deserve more than that.
I sincerely hope the best for you, and that you H will change his ways. Divorce is hard, and it's hard on the kids. But, if you are left with a H that will not change, I have to think that you deserve more than that.
I will be watching for your posts on here. Don't be shy about popping in. I care what you are going through. Hang in there! K.
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Seems to me that maybe SR is right, she may have just been trying to find out something by eavesdropping.
My kids are old enough that they only have to go with their dad when they want to (youngest son is 16), and they dont much want to, so I dont worry about when he brings them home, except for the fact that he could be drunk or high while driving.
I used to worry constantly about that, but my therapist told me that I should have a talk with my son, and let him handle it. He is at the age when his friends are driving and unfortunately it is a fact of life that this is a skill he has to learn all the time, to be aware of the sobriety of the driver of the car in which you are riding. Its unfortunate that he has to practice this skill when it comes to the father who should be doing all he can to protect him.
I too have major issues with my X just walking in like he still lives here. This house WAS ours, but is now solely mine thru the divorce. I still cant get him to observe the boundaries I set up for my home. I told him
1. He could stop by between jobs IF he called FIRST and someone was home that wanted to see him
2. He knew my working hours..I dont want to see him, so make sure he is gone when I get home from work.
3. Knock at all times.
he just walks in, looks around, goes into childrens bedrooms, even if they are not at home, uses the upstairs bathroom (really p!$$es off my daughter..lots of times he clogs it as he eats so much..just one of his fine addictions)
and what really ticks me off is he comes over and goes in the lawn shed and mows lawn or plows snow without asking. I, or my children will do it, the way I want it done...he loves to shoot the grass all over my gazebo (gazebo has alot of gingerbread work and it is impossible to get the grass out of there and off the screen) and in my fish pond. Maybe next time Ill have a professional come over and clean up after him and send him the bill..maybe he will stop then.
Good luck, you may need it if he is like my X.
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Hi Sunrise,
That is probably the case. And I'm happy to say, she didn't get to hear anything about X or OW! HaHa, and great for me!!!
There was a time several months ago she could have heard plenty. I'm happy to say, I'm at a better place in my life, and they don't consume all my thoughts the way they once did.
I don't think I have seen this until now, but now I do, and I can see I'm making progress.
Sounds like your X is a real piece of work. I don't envy you one bit. My oldest daughter struggles with going with her dad a lot of times. I tell her she is old enough to make her own decision on whether to go or not. She is always afraid of letting him down. In the end, she is the one that suffers. In time, I believe she will come to terms with it, and I'm sure when she does, she will not be with him very much.
I'm going on vacation in a week. I need to lock up my garage, as it does not have an opener. I can only imagine, while I'm out of town, X would come and use stuff in the garage. He thinks what I have is joint property, UGHHHH! I let him know one day, we NO longer SHARE anything. He gave that all up. He has gotten better, but I don't think it would take a whole lot for him to backslide.
Thanks for your thoughts.
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I just have to invade your space! I have been having a rough day today - not really sure why. This post has been helpfull to me. I think the reason I am feeling down is because my former anniversary is approaching - June 8 - and my D-day anniversary as well. Also, through all of this - I lost my only sister 6 weeks ago. She was only 44 years old, and died in her sleep. They never found a reason, so it was labeled "natural causes". Several times this weekend I wished I could have picked up the phone and called her - she could make me laugh in the midst of my worst moments. I miss her terribly. I want to echo a thought expressed here. Something that still haunts me is the feeling that I am not worthy to be loved, ever again. I know that my D is still fresh, and my X's affair has stripped away any self esteem I had, but how do you get over it? Or do you? 19 years ago I married this man because I though he was the most stable man I would ever meet. So when I found out that he was having an affair, and he left, I thought to myself "I really am not good enough to get another man". After all, my ex and I have 2 great kids togher - and even that was not good enough to keep him around. What possible motivation would any other man have? I know I am having a bad day - and hopefully tomorrow will look better - but how do you ever get past that feeling?
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Hi WOF-- You are not invading by any means. I'm so sorry to hear of the loss of your sister. You have every right to feel the way you are feeling. I think coming to the posts though, can help you. I know many times when I feel down, it helps me a lot too. To know that you are not alone is so helpful.
Our divorce days are the same, and in June I would have been married 19 years.
I woke up early this morning. I couldn't go back to sleep as my mind wouldn't rest. As I read you post, I think, I too am feeling the same. But, for me, I feel it with everyone. I feel like I'm distancing myself from just about everyone. I not only feel like I can't have a relationship with a man, but friends as well. I feel drained so much of the time.
The past 3 years of my life have been so hard, I feel whipped! My daughter had a near death illness. While she has come a long way, she has so many medical issues now that I almost feel like I'm not fun to even be around. My thoughts are consumed with her.
Then there is the X. He has his new found life, lives with his woman, and life is great!
I don't know how these men walk away from the wonderful children in their lives, and when they have other needs that really blows my mind. I think in my X's case though, he is so self centered, and all about his body, I don't think he can handle my D's setbacks.
I think I'm rambling now, but, I think I know what you are feeling. I do believe you are worth more than you are feeling right now. I think you have been through a lot, and I'm sure your sister was a wonderful friend to you in all of this as well, and you are feeling lost without her. Keep your strength, and prayer. You are worth so much more and you deserve for someone to come in to your life and treat you wonderful.
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Hi, I'm new to this board and saw, Kerona that you are from W.V. I am also and am a BS. I am only divorced 7 months now and it still hurts. Sorry for what you are enduring, and know it must be very hard. One of the things I had and still have trouble with is the brazen quality of the WSs attitudes- they feel so entitled while you are supposed to accept what they have done with no bitterness. They even expect you to approve of it. Unbelievable. Keep going on with things- those who do wrong get what they deserve, though it may take years.
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Hi Dwyne, and welcome here. I think this is a pretty good place to find!
I agree with what you have said, about how brazen they are. I have seen this so many times with my X and his W. Not to mention, my X-MIL also telling me to be his friend. I believe in forgivness, and I believe I have forgiven both of them, but as far as being buddies, I'm not buying it.
This whole D process must be a long invovled journey, in which I intend on making a full recovery.
Take care, K.
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I'm back. I've read over the posts here and if anything they should help us all realize that we are definately not alone.
We had a great weekend. As I watched my BF with my kids I couldn't help but think to myself, "Why couldn't you have met him the first time around?" But then again, being a firm believer in all things happening for a reason I realized that without my XH I wouldn't have the four beautiful children I have today.
A couple things keep showing up on this board. The first is the nerve that the WS and OW have around us. I do believe that what comes around goes around, but in the meantime these shameless people can make our lives miserable. I have an XH who had the affair and couldn't have cared less what went on with the kids. Sure he wanted to see them, but on his schedule only. He said he knew they were in good hands and by law he didn't even have to see them so I should consider myself lucky. At the time of our divorce he asked for every other weekend and a few hours two nights a week. The judge noted that it was well below the state madated time, but my XH said it was all he could have them. Whatever. Of course the OW never saw any of this. To her he portrayed himself as dad of the year. Fast forward three years, the OW has moved to town and now lives with him, they are getting married, and low and behold they are paying too much child support so they want 50/50 custody. During the course of the proceedings he has maintained that the past is in the past and should be forgotten. I think not!
Both of them act like all should be forgotten, but that's not how life works.
The other thing that is apparent in these posts is the devastating effects an affair has on the BS's self esteem. I still struggle with it from time to time, but have come a long way. For those of you who are new to this, it does get better. Also, never take your spouses rejection to mean that you are not worthy. They are the unworthy ones. Also, don't let them project their negative images on to you. Sure, none of us are perfect, but we all have a lot to offer. Remember that when you are feeling down. We are wonderful people and deserving of love.
Karona - Is this the vacation with the boyfriend? What did you ever decide to do?
I've got to run, but will check back later.
Take care and God bless!
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Hi K-
Glad you had a great weekend. I know what you mean about your thoughts getting carried away. But it's so true, if we had not taken the journey, we wouldn't have our wonderful kids, so that makes everything right! I'm glad you have found such happiness with this man, that is great! And that he is good with your kids is ever greater!!
Yes, the trip I spoke of is THE ONE. He will be going with us. I feel bad about it since my feelings for him are changing. The trip was paid for ahead of time, and it's a no cancellation deal. I know that in time, I will have to break it off with him, and that will be painful. He is great my girls as well, and I know that can be a rare find. But, I also feel I have to have much stronger feelings for someone, than someone that is good for the girls. I need both. His feelings for me run deep, and I never intended to hurt him.
The kids get out of school tomorrow, and I'm so happy! I love the girls to be home.
Thanks for getting back to me. It's always uplifting to hear from you.
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Hi K-
Good luck with the trip. You have a good sense of where you are at and plus you are very sensitive. You have been honest and upfront with him from the beginning. I know if you do decide to end things eventually with him that you will handle it very gently. In the meantime go on the trip and enjoy yourself.
We ahve two and a half days of school left. Yeah! I absolutely love summer and the freedom it gives us.
Take care and God bless!
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Hi again K--
Yes, summer, I love it! I love having my girls home, and the freedom you mentioned. It's wonderful. So far, I have not had to get a job, so I have lots of time with the girls.
Thanks for the vote of confidence. It will be tough. I will enjoy the trip, but feel guilty knowing what is to come. I'm sure he is feeling something. He has been letting me know how much our relationship means, and how much the time spent with the girls and I means.
Funny how time has a way of revealing answers.
Take care, hope your last couple days of school go fast.
K
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