Well fans as of today I guess there is no hope. I just can't continue to call to talk to the kids and have her chew me out because her job mandated her to go to an IC then to MC. She said she would get a new job, trouble is she has no idea they know has been stealing money and goods from the church:) Reported by yours truly:) hated to do it but I had to let them, wrong or right it is done.

So my question am I wise to be keeping a list of every mean thing she does to me?
Every neglectful thing she does to the kids?
Every illegal thing she does? (some are blatant)
Should I and will recorded calls be allowed proving how mean she is and yelling at the kids on the phone.

If I have this list of dates and witnesses will it be allowed in the Divorce proceding whenever they may be. Also will it have any affect on a custody of the children?
I want the kids and I know she does too. She threatens me with no seeing or talking to them almost daily, but will things like these that follow contribute to me getting the kids.
1. Contributing alcohol to minors
2 Sleeping with other women in the same bed as my 4 year old son? (sexual in nature or not)
3. Forging checks from my account.
4. Forging documents after I have signed them to the tune of $160,000.00
5. Assault with a motor vehicle
6. Theft of money and goods from her employer (a Chucrch of all places)
7. The list goes on and on

Will things like this affect the outcome or should I just let dead dogs lie so to speak?

Any advise is good advise as far as I am concerned. I still don't want a D, but if it happens I want the kids with me.

Also I heard I can ask a judge for mental evaluations on all of us to see if she is fit, is this true?

Thanks

Any and all that should make a difference. Keep everything, keep a journal, record phone conversations. Hire the most evil divorce attorney you can find. Sounds to me like she should be in the state pen.

Disclaimers: My opinion may be biased. I am not an attorney.

My W found out that I reported her at work for stealing. She asked and I dont lie so I admitted I had. They are supposedly going to use the incident as leverage to get her to go to counseling, she heard from a close friend who's dad runs the church she was getting fired. Once I admitted to telling the Church she had stole cash and did just numerous other things she told me how I just ruined the kids lives. At first I was ashamed and then I remembered I am not the one stealing, lying and running around alone with 15-17 year old boys. I shouldn't feel bad for doing this should I? She told me before she found out that we were over, then after she found out she told me we were really over now, I guess another guilt trip on me.

Now my new question. If she loses her job she is going to her mom and dad's I am sure. There is no paperwork filed so I know she can take them no problem. I am in Alabama she is in Florida. If I file in Alabama will that prevent her from running and hiding the kids. Because at this point after all she has done she is aware she is not going to get them. It is also hard to execute Plan A when my W knows what I have done, even though I did it because I care and want to see her get help. She says I am spiteful and I dont want to see her hurt, only to get better, will she ever understand? and if she doesn't will I ever feel like I did help her life even if she never recognizes it? What a life I have, geees I couldn't have planned this to have gone any worse than it is.