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Hello everyone, it's been a very long time since my last posting on MB, well since last year. My previous post name was mayflower, due to numerous computer crashes, virus. I simply gave up on email and lost my old log in number. Warning my pent up accumulated repressed feelings are about to burst. Venting session now in process. I apolize in advance, if I sound a bit cranky as I am or offended in any way about my lament. I am simply have a human experince and moment.
On a personal level, I was simply overwhelmed by the bizzaro circumstances that the X contrived by the week. His abmysal maddess still has no bottom or end but gets worse and difficult to battle alone on my part. I am a human being and not a machine. I am grieving the immeasurable deep seated damage,pain, conflict and obstacles the X inflicted upon myself and our children saga continues. Yes, our lives are altered forever.
As the x puts it to our son this his second chance in life to really flex his playboy thang, couldn;t get quanity variety of women in marriage as he could now. Ahh the poor guy. All I feel in my heart is Good riddins-I am deeply ashamed,disgusted and profoundly embarrsed that he is the father of my children !
I hope now that our paths will never cross again and the past, memories will vanish forever. As he follows his hyper libido as his only guiding star of wonder, brains and heart not important.I am free to follow my own true north star, unhindered.
I do however, wonder where are all the good urologosits are these days, when one needs them most. I am sure they could truly fix the problem as opposed to wearing one self thin with out the treadmill of counseling,seldom do things get resolved, and never ending cycles of problems.
Where one a party refuses to open up their hearts in the first place,great waste of time for the spouse and councelor. Exception being for those persons, who are rare exceptions, where one has truly made a fall, feels remorse of their own doing, one time misguided mistake and does all they can to make inflight repairs, rebuild the marriage/family in sincerty.
The legal bills would be drastically reduced for sure and families would not be driven to bankrupcy and ruin. Yes, urigologists definately hold the answer for those who have no self control, in more ways than one. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />
I simply couldn't find words to express to any one on the board the unspeakable evil, wickendess and agony X inflicted upon us and is continuing to do so, by rubbing his turbo ho's in my children and my face. I am most weary, exhausted beyond measure.
Beyond the comprehension of human decency what the x has schemed to strip everything away from us and our children. I am saddend, by the compounding of matters by the overall apathy and ineffectiveness from numerous councelors, legal profession, etc who listen with out understanding, sigh and say nothing can be done.
Truth is, many alternatives do exist to empower spouses and families to end, or reasonably contain madness generated spouses. Appeasement do nothing approach, seldom works. Not only does such approach cause greater damage harm in the long run often a the family expense emotionally, ect.. The price is much to high for families to endure.
How tragically sad to discover that lunactics are so well insulated,very well protected from their actions,obligations, consequences. Further enabled, rewarded. I am amazed that they know their rights so well. My what a wayward person paradisce. It appears the "JUST US" system in many circumstances is also self serving.
The vanishing conscience of North America is mindblowing and so deeply anti marriage/family climate is startling. I am refreshed, deeply encouraged, and now feel reconnected again to be here again and still discover that people here on MB still have compassion, empathy, conscience,faith, hearts, posses a great degree of normalcy, morals, family values, strength, courage, boldness, wisdom, wits, and humor about them although hurting and suffering very, very deeply.
I still shutter to know that I have been only a tool, target object of someone misdirected hatred and hate crime of what others had done wrong to the X. Truthfully, I am still winded, as I struggle to pick up the bruised, battered, shattered pieces of our lives. Obviously, I am aware my true healing process will begin as I will be no longer traumized in seeing or having dealings with a perputrator. I am awestruck of much healing I must do and the damage done throughout the years towards is extensive.
I am still naustated to discover that I was choosen to be his marriage partner, so that he could transfer all his pain, garbage on. Ouch, smothered, oppressed, entrapped in a unequally partnership for this. I am happy to be free from further misery. I didn't enlist and agree in his warped views in my wedding wows. I wish I couldn't have gotten away from the infidelity, duplicty prison sentance sooner.
In fairness and consideration towards my x. I am imagine that for my x to have lived with some one such as myself who has family values, morals belives life, marriage, family are sacred and that love, goodness, etc would cause equal if not more pain to him. His feelings of being oppressed and entrapped in not being e able to excersice their immoral sick perverted lifestyle either. Children are burden, expense and interference . So maybe divorce under these circumstances could be construed as a win/win situation.
Wow, what a battle the actual divorce process has been, or rather rightly defined as martial, familial warfare. Exhausting, and all consuming. I am grateful it has ended now as the X had the power to drag things yet longer.
I don't understand sadism. My nerves are still freyed and I have had to contact with his ho's to beg them to get him to sign the settlement aggreement and get divorce under way, so they too, could benefit and fully enjoy him sooner with no hinderences from myself, or children.
Usually, it's the partner saying unhand my man, I want him back, I miss him, not in my books. Or I can't commit to you because my wife won't give me a divorce. I lacked such convictions. These women have been most surprised to learn, I am only to thrilled to be divorced from him and told them if they were into alcholics, cheaters all the power to them. I just want my chattel release papers.
I suppose to be fair to these women mind and rationale they must think they have a real catch on the line and they are most certainly entitled to their illusions.
Our children are they best part of him, the essense is gone from him, but his women have only an empty hated filled shell of a person in their hands. Horomes do wear off.
Not that I wanted to contact these women. Main thing it was only strategy I could think of when he did everything to prolong and make things needlessly difficult, to make use of positive peer pressure to enlist their cooperation to motivate him to set us free. What a delusion on the x part to imagine, I would want to remain apart of his herd or have anything to do with him. A betrayer is definately not a true friend in my books or to be apart of my bandwidth of relations.
The experince and encounter of someone's sheer madness, obsessions has definately changed my prespectives on life forever. I never imagained in my naiveete what a deranged personality really was, natural by product conseqence of unbridled selfishness,pride and greediness. Even nightmares too, must come to an end.
I will never be the same that's for sure, a bit wiser I hope. However, I feel ever more deeply for all the hurt people that are silently having their lives, families,legacies destroyed needlessly, forever by bullies, trynant or spouse bent on hurting,manipulating and using others for their own selfish purposes. Master servant/slave type relationship in that case are not very satisfying relationships.
I see more clearly through the divorce process in many cases how much needless suffering and nonscences could have been prevented,and can be.
What a travesty, to discover how little the laws and society protects the weak, vulnerable and innocent. Indifferent,jaded and apathy rules. It would appear these are the ingrediants for anarchy, yet anarchy, is often what is really going on in many of home and so many turn simply a blind eye to suffering needs to those who are vulnerable, defenseless.
I am deeply appalled at a society at large that is missing in action, that lacks intergrity,duty grit, guts to protect but rather tolerates, the unacceptable, enables, permits the degradation and dehumanization of women and children to bear the load, make the sacrifices, or do the hard time, of suffering, exploitation for crimes of a misguided, selfish parent, or spouse lacking in a moral center/fiber.
I am crestfallen by the oppresion of living such a person firsthand and then to find systems of supposed help that too, lack a moral center, moral sense or convictions to be even more overwhelming.
I am most saddened that it has taken a two year seperation to get some so simple done. The equation of X wanted out of the marriage... no problem on my part the door swings both ways. Should a person not want to be in a marriage, no problem let them go... Better to have immediate peace, harmony perserved in the home than be riddled with yrs of conflict, melo psycho drama,bitterness, selfishness, emptiness and deprived by lack of love.
Earnestly, who really needs to be invalidated and appease the unworthy or undeserving in the first place. The doormat approach to win someone of little quailty is a waste of time as I see it.
Bascially counterproductive when there are so many other nicer persons to focus on, build a community upon, not neccesary another partner per se, could be a old person,teen, shut in, single mom, dad, a neighbor, a handicapped person truly needing, deserving kindness, assistance etc that would appreciate the kindness, attentions, support.
Is it all about the selfish, self centered needs of a wayward spouse who basically lacks the capacity to love and a backbone in the first place.
Who often are persons who are basically bottom less need pit. Absoultely not in my opinion. The shoes fit on both feet. Mutual respect, trust and understanding is a good thing. The combination is balanced in my opinion to create harmony, sustance.
Who in the right mind wants to be in a relationship with someone who can't love, cherish, nuture, protect, provide, to be trusted, etc. I am pleased not to have offered any attempts to reconcile, offer friendship to my x to stand firm in my resolve to protect myself and children from his trynanny and cruelities, exaggaretated belief of self entitlement, exaggarated notion of self importance.
X is now on affair number 8, and sunken to a complete state of depravity.
I am most greatful that I have taken legal action and manuvered the seperation flow to have my X actually divorce me. To give him the real feeling of power, control that his insecurities thrive on. I should think this would be his first step into a real world of reality, manhood maybe and responibilty to take ownership of his hardness of heart and disgusting lifestyle,baggage.
Since he instigated his affairs, and created a horrible martial and family atmosphere. Live continious life of lies, denied his dark heart and dirty dealing, wove his sick web of deceits in the first place. It feels so good that he is now finally gone forever...and our corrupt union dissolved.
I truly encourage those struggling with an unworthy partner to not lose heart, and the battle for true family freedom from pain, hurt, harm, mayhem,dissolutionment. THe battle to disentangle is truly in my opinion and paradigm worth the disolution and closure. Such partnerships, in my opinion are truly produce only more discord, and dissaffaction and it is the children who suffer the most in such immeasurable ways. Keeping the conflict as low as possible, many chronically wayward spouses are little worth expense, time or engery.
X most basic primary need not being met in the marriage according to X " NOT HAVING ENOUGH VARIETY OF WOMEN WITHIN THE MARRIAGE"
My basic unmet needs that X met almost none of my normal basic needs, nor my children.
Freedom !
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Sky diver Thank you for a wonderful post. I printed it off to remind me that the struggle will eventually end.
I am forced to stay in this relationship because of insurance reasons. I haven't spoken to him in almost 3 months. It's better to live in silence than to hear the insults and blame. He only speaks to our daughter when he's on the phone and does it to give the impression that he's a good father as he bothers to acknowledge her existence.
I found where he has gone to AA. Something that I've asked for 12 years. I don't know if he's doing it to appease me or actually has realized his problems. I woke Tuesday night to his rantings while he was drunk to find his shorts soaked in urine on the kitchen counter. I moved them to his desk after I cleaned the mess. He drinks so much that he passes out and can't control his bladder. He's destroyed our home. I call that a serious alcoholic. He's been arrested and spent time in a mental health facility. He was taken there by his employer. All this hasn't convinced him that he has a problem.
I have to put up all pictures of our daughter as he spits on them. He's torn up all her pictures in his billfold and mine. Pictures that can't be replaced. He's destroyed one of her tennis racquets-not an easy thing to do. She has played for 7 years and even received a college scholarship in tennis yet he has not gone to a single match-just made an appearance to 3 games. He's locked us out of the house. The police have been to our home 4 times and still he doesn't know he has problems. Once I thought I was going to jail because I pushed him out of the house while he was drunk. When I confessed to the police officer that I had done this fully expecting to be charged with spousal abuse, the officer replied, "Good job."
Our daughter graduated from high school this year. He missed the honors awards ceremony, parties, and seeing her go to the prom. She can't have her friends over. He doesn't care. She will wake in the night and tell me that she's afraid to go back to sleep as she's afraid he will kill us.
He and xow made our lives miserable for 3 years. She stalked us and I suspect she may have either given up or found another idiot. He refused to have our home phone number changed and because my name is on nothing-and I mean nothing-I couldn't have the number changed. Daughter and I had to endure her endless hang up phone calls looking for him and her insults.
I found in his office a business card from the woman who introduced him to xow. This woman told him once that she considered having an affair with him to get back at xow. Their friendship ended and have spent time making each other's lives miserable. XOW even accused me of befriending her. I don't associate with people of the ilk. Now this woman and stbx have apparently decided to have their own affair. They deserve each other. They're both serial cheaters.
Like you said, the time for being naive is over. I didn't know until we had been married for 15 years, my husband's true age. His mother died and the people doing the estate sale gave me his birth certificate. I was yelled at for snooping! He told me that he had advanced degrees and was a straight A student. The truth is that he was a very poor student and it took him almost 8 years to get his degree. I even wonder if he really did get his degree as I've never seen a diploma nor do we get any communication from his school. He told me that he played baseball for that university-a lie. His parents would not allow him to leave home until he was 27. They controlled every aspect of his life.
I discovered that he has sex with prostitutes. I'm sure he doesn't consider this adultery.
I can't begin to imagine how miserable he is. God has blessed him so much and he just chooses to allow the filth of his sin to infest his life. The filth spills over into our lives. When he stands before God to give an account of his life, I wonder what justification he will give for his treatment of his daughter and me. What justification will he give for his affairs, alcoholism, lies, and the way he has conducted his business. He has befriended employees of the purchasing department of our county and they allow him to write the specifications on bids in order for him to be awarded the bids. What justification will he give God for that one?
I too look forward to freedom. I don't want to be his friend. I don't want to ever see him again. I pray daily to my Heavenly Father that if he will never come to know Jesus as his Savior, that God would end his life. I told my husband this and now he goes around telling everyone that I'm going to kill him. He's not worth the jail time. God is in charge, not I.
I am so grateful to be able to live in silence. While it is still stressful, it is better. Like you, I look forward to going on with my life.
Please remember me in your prayers...you'll be in mine. Thanks for the post..
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wow! sky diver, sounds like you've been through something terrible! I feel your pain. I know that there is not anything I can say that could make it all go away, but I know it must be hard. I also know that just because you have gone this far, right now, you are a strong, very strong person. You are a special individual and I hate that your x has lost his mind and thinks that he will find happiness in between the legs of many, many other women.
Hang in there. Good things are coming your way.
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<small>[ August 30, 2004, 09:18 PM: Message edited by: laura_lee ]</small>
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Good for you..and ditto for me!
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Dearest all, who so kindly have responded, shared and filled my heart with comforting warm words, support and encouragement.
The broken damaged, parts of my spirit and heart, are slowly soaking in all your wonderfully sweet heartfelt, kind words of concern, tenderness, validation. Thankyou, all for reaching out.
Wow, I am feeling sooooo, much better now and definately can feel our God's healing touch and balm coming straight through each of you. Your all truly great first aid gifted medics crew, as
I am actaully feeling stronger now and even re-engerzied. I wear a larger smile on my face today. Thankyou everyone again, from the bottom to the top of my heart! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="images/icons/cool.gif" />
I am sorry for my typos, but am in such emotional intense pain, that I couldn't even see straight without winching from all the strain. My shoulders and back muscles are finally starting to relax from all the tension and safety. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="images/icons/cool.gif" />
I deeply regret not be able to get back on the board to indiviually address everyone personally yet. Presently, I have three ring circus on my hands beyond reasonable and am focused on trying to untangle myself from a very ugly situation one thread at a time.
What is being levelled at me is just too unsavory and gross to repeat for words. I attempted to write a few lines about the situation but simply ugly, brutal for writing. Yuck, oh the attacks keep comin in.
JPH: Am sending you and your daughter big balloons of hugs and special prayers. I have read every word of your post 2 times and can't even fathom the real reality and depths of what you are both enduring that has gone unsaid. The internalized pain you are feeling must be so very deep, to your spirit core.
I just shake my head as I read what you are suffering. Sounds like you are both seriously entrapped by a dangerous cold hearted man similar to my XH. I can understand on some level, having to stay in the realtionship as it was a very delicate, intricate path process for me to eeeek out of. Each person way out is so different and complex.
So terribly sad , when the people you love embark on the journey of lunacy and destruction. You just desire them to be normal, human, healed and reconnected to back to God, life, their kids at least. And reconnection and rewiring is what's needed. Great Task that only our creator can accomplish.
Reality is everywhere on this planet, somewhere, someone at this very moment is thankfully being touched and transformed by our Savior hand. What a wonder.
JPH;I am sorry that men in your community cannot be there truly for you and your daughter either. Poor police that too, have thier own hands handcuffed by these guys. Yes, your doing an awesome job, but really is your job, how much can you endure more. These people so deserve help and to be accountable.
I am so tierd of the passivity at work. It hurts so much to betrayed, over and over. I think we got the message of rejection the first time.
I wonder would't it more sense collect these people and put them in treatment centers, dry up,keep them there, let them deal with the baggage, get themselves self right with God, their family,learn,grow, evolve.
Gaining immediate Judges, court order to get these people into treatment centers asap, where hopefully they will learn some basic manners, too. Liquor corps,media take their billions of revenues and put back into the communities with treatment centers and offer aid too, families that have been ruined to insanity and destitute.
Companies, corps get your mentally maimed, addicted personal help in compassionate way, they certainly would make more money or ROI in profits healthy minded staff. Churches, wake up, walk along these men,women help them. Love thy neigbhor is command, action verb and don't leave the battle up to women/children in the front lines. Let's unplug from the media, until they get it straight and start respecting marriages/families. Please spare us all. Enough anarchy and lunacy.
I wonder why XH and many others are teaching such terrible life lessons to teach our children? Degree courses from Hell to Hell.
Worthlessness 101? Rejection 202? Being Unlovable 303? How to fail at life 404? Loser 505? How to be a Cheater 606? Loss of respect 707, Sex without meaning 808, Mulipte Sex =STD,how to spread infection 909, Insanity 111, Death 112 Eternal Seperation 113,etc.
Our children and ourselves deserve sanity and sooo much better.
God is in control and our God is ever so near. Would be nice if people would take their up parts. I often wonder what will take for someone to realize that women and children are real human beings and not toys to be triffled with or inferior life forms. I believe this equally is applicable to the good natured real men, too.
Thankfully, God still does heal and deal with tiny minds of those who exalt themselves as tiny tin gods capable of only destruction.
HUGGS....smiling now and adding each one of you too my prayers.
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Dead to all!
Thankyou, for tuning in and for your very kind words of validation,compassion and touch of hilarious truthful humor. Your words, wit and good sense did make such a difference, unexpectedly timed.
Just what I needed without knowing what exactly I needed. I am touched at the core and feel a whole lot better. Bull eye's.
My confidance levels hover just above ground zero. Am still but slowly reconnecting the wires one by one and ask myself now where does this wire go? The defrag process of disposing old memories, injuries is interesting process as well.
His vengence to destroy my career which I operated at home and knew of my organizations vulnerablities really hit hard. So life will hopefully take new horizons and dimensions.
Today, I get my ususal dose of imflamatory conscending vents from him, as we unfortunately have a few loose ends to tie up.
I have made things so reasonable fair reasonable. I don't quite understand why the X just doesn't dissappear with his dalliance model 8 don't evaporate somewhere.
So many options he has to really live his deviate lifestyle in privcy. Wooo, hoo.
I just want to tune out and unplug. He doesn't even pay rent to take up space in my head.
Your spidy senses are bang on. Indeed something so terrible did happen. How shall I say it, I had an "Alfred Hitchock" experince.
I certainly, wasn't prepared for the encounter of evil wickedness, nor experinced any like it before. The inconcionable manlevolent acts which XH unleashed were pretty sick.
On my birthday last Christmas day, he had our kids watching video Silence of the lambs, Run Lola run. A sliver of a glimmer a twist of lime view of how sick his tormented mind is and a horrible influence is on our children. His hatred runs deep with no remorse.
The lethal combination, of narcotics, booze, bad influences, of course twisted small minded dalliances, that team share his brain and member with him,and sick addiction to his porno's that spawn him on, which oooze into him like tar.Sadly provides much of his hatred scripts.
He and his collobrators really were thrill seekers looking for fame high drama in the courts, getting back at daddy issues or prodigal son. Personally, as I excavate through all the lies, carefully peel away at the trauma layers to make sense of things. The verdict comes up the same everytime.
A soul cry down deep, locked in a pit, a faint cry for help, wanting somebody stop him from himself.
However, with his depraved mind set in motion, the very thing he craved the most sensenational attention drama. Led me to unscore and counter his madness ploys, keep things at low volume simmer. Diverting my engergies, of keeping him focused and streamlined on divorcing me/children.
The way I see it, adultery issues really are a family affair and kids are too sucked into the black hole. Can one imagine if the children had the same equal rights to go shopping to replace new parents who don't hurt their cores by abandonment, and self centeredness.
All that garbage coursing through his mind and veins extracts the human out of the being and something obviously else takes up residency. What exactly took over what he opened himself up to is unknown.
Adultery lane can spiral down some pretty inconceivable flamable dark corridors, which I didn't even know existed beyond the parameters. Unfoiling his schemes brought heighted his game playing frenzy. My having to remind myself not to feed the wildlife.
I have working on the forgiveness process, RJ as the treatment here on earth justice system is limited and could never truly satisfy, repair the damages of a broken spirit and cause on deeper wounding that hype can bring about.
I felt it best to deliver his file field report activities by the trusted heavenly fed ex prayer route.To the rightful father judge of supreme courts of this universe. Trusting, XH will be dealt with ,fairly, justly and wisely.
Grace system, something XH clearly doesn't understand.
Working out my resentment knots,taming down the vengence monkey inside my self, is a enterprize onto it's own. I never knew I could feel such emotionality and negative thoughts of sparks that could fly. But still thankfully greatful to be restrained and re-engineered by my Savior's hands and hopefully, growing and learning.
I too, am very sorry about your personal losses. With a screen name which you provide, communicates volumes of harrowing deep anguish to me. Your screen name is of equal intrigue as I literally was almost" Dead to it all". You conduct yourself as a true humanitarin though understandly disprited.
I can only imagine the frequency of high pain level of the agony, betrayal of your marital/family tradgey, would hit even harder...
Path to lunacy is most broadhighway these days...
Keep up the good fight of faith, grace, forgiveness all that's right, just and good!
Keeping you/family in my prayers, thoughts. Thank you again for reaching out and making a difference.
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