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#780945 12/20/04 12:28 PM
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I am fasting and praying today for God's wisdom concerning separating or divorcing my wife.

My wife is on what appears to be her 4th affair. She was spotted by OM #3, while driving with the new OM. He promptly called and emailed all of her co-workers.

I asked her if there's something between her and the new OM. She said they are just friends. I asked if she thought that was healthy for her. She said, "I should just go ahead and have an affair with the new OM, since that's what everyone thinks is happening". In the past six weeks she has spent the weekend somewhere and will not tell me where or who she's with.

I'm emotionally spent and would like to remove my children from seeing a loose lifestyle.

When Did you know it was time to file and how did you choose divorce as opposed to a separation?

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Titleist

#780946 12/20/04 09:14 PM
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(((titleist)

Tough question. I didn't fast. I did pray. I strugggled and struggled...and frankly still struggle to an extent wondering if I did the right thing or if I should have waited longer because I do still have feelings for him. XH was NOT going to file. he was perfectly content to stay married and be with OW--I think just keeping me on the string in case he got tired of her.

I do believe God hates divorce and that we should do what we can to avoid it. And it is painful!!

The event that thrust me over the edge and to my attorney's office to file was the night he threatened my parents' property which is in life estate..his name is sort of on the property along with mine, and he was drunk and insinuating that he might make my parents, who are broke, buy out his piece.

But getting to that point: I'm one of those people who has always said I need God to put a billboard in front of my face in order for me to know what he wants me to do. Seems that each time I prayed that he'd give me guidance, my XH would so something totally hurtful and unfeeling.

That, coupled with the financial threats, the fact that he had moved OW in with him and the affair had been going on for nearly a year, and his admitting that he didn't intend to give up drinking (one of the criteria for my taking him back)...all rolled together helped me to file.

Also, I figured if I filed and he really was repentant and wanted me back, he had three months in which to do so before the DV was final. While he admitted he was angry when I filed, he never made a move toward reconciliation during the 3 months. In fact, things actually got uglier, I think because at that point OW knew she was "winning" and she was pushing hard to keep us at each other's throats, or keep us from speaking to each other at all.

I'm not sure what to say in your situation. I see, like me, you have been on both sides of the fence. I apologize for not remembering your exact situation. That, for me, did make my decision tougher because I kept saying to myself "but YOU were unfaithful, too". BUT...I was very, very sorry for what I did, I turned from it, I changed my ways, I asked for God's forgiveness, and I'm struggling still to forgive myself.

My XH has not shown signs that he wants to change. Sure, he's said he's sorry...but he kept right on living the same way--seeing her.

In your case, your wife's history does not bode well for her. Sure, she could change, and perhaps you should wait longer if you're really unsure. But her example is also doing your kids no good, and they're old enough to understand that you're tolerating it (believe me...I've been scolded lots for what I allowed my kids to see me tolerate!).

Not sure what state you're in so not sure what the waiting period is for DV there. If it's several months or more, you could file and make it clear that if your wife shows TRUE signs of change, you would be willing to reconsider. I did that 12 years ago. I filed during XH's first affair, then put the final court date on hole, twice, when he gave up OW and stopped drinking. I wanted to be sure he had changed before I took him back. (Though guess in the end, I was still fooled.... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> )

And even if you DV, you could always remarry, too.

As for legal separation, I considered it only briefly. In Iowa, it's basically a DV that just doesn't allow the parties to remarry. As my attorney said, the stroke of a pen will change a legal separation to a divorce. At the time I filed, I had decided I was no longer trying to save the marriage. I had accepted that there was nothing I could do to change him.

My heart goes out to you and to everyone who is struggling with whether or not to file. It is no doubt the most difficult decision I've made in my life after what was probably the most difficult year of my life. But God does give strength.

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#780947 12/20/04 09:43 PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Titleist:
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In the past six weeks she has spent the weekend somewhere and will not tell me where or who she's with. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">You may or may not choose to divorce. Nobody could fault you if you do choose divorce. You have all the legal, moral, and Biblical justifications for it that anybody could have.

But, what you need right away are BOUNDRIES. Your wife's behavior is grossly disrespectful to you, and a HUGE warning sign. Let's cut out the nonsense. If she is not having an affair she is purposely acting in a way to make you think she is having an affair. But, you and I KNOW that she is having an affair. Do you want to wait to take action until end up with Aids or Herpes? And what about the damage to the kids?

BOUNDRIES. Say it over and over again. Get some of Henry Cloud's books on boundries and read them.

Consult a family law lawyer to determine what you can do to protect yourself and your children. Then do it.

My ex WW was similar. She only had one affair but it was a whopper! And it took her leaving me alone for a weekend, after I told her I didn't want her to go, to make me see what a fool I was.
Learn from my mistakes. Stop reacting to her misbehavior and take the necessary steps to protect yourself and your children. She will scream, yell and cry, but so what?

<small>[ December 20, 2004, 08:45 PM: Message edited by: JustinExplorer ]</small>

#780948 12/21/04 03:21 AM
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It all so overwhelminging isn't it? The word of God is so clear- wants to draw us in nearer. To give you peace. Dive in.

I am sorry for your this pain- I pray for gentle soultions will comfort you!

I am sending a e-card to comfort you because your hurting so deeply!

http://www.angelhugs.com/PathsOfLife.html

Christ Love
my love
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#780949 12/21/04 02:53 PM
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Thanks for everyone's comments.

Lordslady - I'm just having a hard time with being the one who actually brings the marriage to death. You're right we could remarry and we've both heard stories about how that happen's all of the time. The only reason I don't like separation is I would know we are still married and would still feel cheated on. Wierd, I know but that's how I'd feel. In California a separation is just like a divorce too. We would do the custody, financial support and asset thing. She said she was going to file for a separation, but I think I put the breaks on that when I told her that I'd already consulted an attorney. She was fuming when she learned this. She forgot that she said I'd need an attorney, so I got one. She had the nerve to call me sneaky. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" /> I let her know that she would not only have to pay child support but alimony as well. She makes almost twice what I do. She couldn't believe that I'd ask for support. I let her know that I've been open to reconciliation since day one. The choice of separation or divorce comes with certain outcomes. Some of which are her financially supporting me.


Justin - Thanks for the confirmation of setting appropriate boudries. I've never demanded them before and now I am. She doesn't like it at all and will not tell me where she's going or how she's spending her time. I will continue to uphold the standard that God has set for marriage.

Sky - Thanks for your kind thoughts and card.

I'm going to see another attorney today and have a bunch of questions.

Please pray that God will direct my actions.

Thanks to all of you!

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#780950 12/21/04 03:40 PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Titleist:
<strong> Thanks for everyone's comments.

Lordslady - I'm just having a hard time with being the one who actually brings the marriage to death. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Don't worry . . . she effectively ended the marriage when she had her numerous affairs. You may be left with cleaning up the mess, but she destroyed the marriage, not you.

You could possibly build a new marriage with her, but as she is working on her 4th OM I would question you sanity if you did.

Peace and I wish you well.

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Titleist. Thankyou for your kind reply. I will indeed hold you up in prayer during this difficult time! Will pray for your lawyers to provide the wisdom which you seek!

Blessings,
Take good care,
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Sky


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