This is such bull. I was hoping to get an honest answer out of him and get some understanding, but I don't suppose I will ever understand. <p>[This message has been edited by popeye (edited June 11, 2000).]

Popeye:<P>The man is delusional and is rewriting history. I am curious to know when was the last time he actually asked you to have a child with him?<P>The XOW and your husband can control, manipulate and deceive themselves and each other for the next twenty. Right now, they are telling each other and you that this is going to work out great. They've dodged the karmic bullets thus far but it won't be long before your spouse will feel the sting of a direct hit.<P>The disingenuousness is incredible. He's fooling himself and trying to convince himself (and you) that he's going to come out of this smelling like a rose. But, it won't last. Life's nasty realities will manage to find him.<P>Stay strong, Popeye. You're an amazing woman.<P>Catnip =^^-<p>[This message has been edited by catnip (edited June 07, 2000).]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by catnip:<BR><B>I am curious to know when was the last time he actually asked you to have a child with him?</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>2 Weeks ago. He also said a week ago that if I were pregnant now, he'd stay with me no matter what our situation.<P>His words don't sound like his own, but his parents'. I don't know what is in his heart and what he's adopting as his own beliefs because that is what he was fed. I don't even care any more. Eventually, it all comes down to personal responsibility and what you are willing to do regardless of what other people think.<P>I know he's got it hard with his family pressuring him by showing such hostility to me. I know he's got a honey on the side who is promising such a better life, but life is hard. It's hard to do the things that make us good people when we are faced with appealing alternatives. It's hard to fix things. I don't want to give up my self respect because life is hard. I can't respect him for the choices he is making either. I am his W! He promised to love, honor, and cherish me 'til death. He's broken every vow.