O.K. guys.. I know when you express anger towards the OW (which is completely justified!) you are expressing it towards YOUR OW. But, I feel compelled to somewhat "defend" SOME OW (NOT the nasty, b---hy,well-deserving horrid ones). Not all OW are these horrid creatures put on earth to make a W's life hell. Speaking from a different although same perspective, I can honestly say that there are SOME OW who are worthwhile human beings (myself, I hope, included). I COMPLETELY regret what I did for 11 years. I do not make excuses for my actions (there are no excuses!), nor do I expect the W to embrace my kids with her H.<BR>I own up to my mistakes and I feel EVERY OW should own up to theirs as well....<BR>I guess with all the crud happening to me I am feeling EXTREMELY sensitive. I just know that I was ALSO continually lied to by the xMM. I also had faith and trust in him. The fact is, is that this man lied to everyone invloved in the situation (including himself). I honestly wish that I never met him and I never got involved with him. There are not a lot of OW like me (gees I sound like an egomaniac, sorry!), but there are some, keep that in mind.. As for the ones that you guys have all talked about. I'll be honest. They sound lower than low and I do hope they get their comeuppance. Good luck to all of you guys in your healing and in your marriages. I guess I wanted to just remind you that there still are some good women out there..

Duranie:<P>You crack me up. Apparently you had the need to validate yourself...it's OK...we KNOW you are different from the rest. You are certainly the opposite end of the spectrum from the OW in my life.<P>I know you were lied to and manipulated all that time; and I know you've had a spiritual awakening, too. You've shown a lot of deference to the Wife by trying to protect her from some hurtful information. <BR>Your intentions are good, Duranie, but I for one, would want to know everything in order to determine whether or not I want to stay with such a skunk. She should know what kind of man she is married to, who lied to her for eleven years, who lied to you for eleven years, and who lied about her for eleven years. That's a long time to be denied.<P>I don't know why these things happen to us or how we get sucked into things as we all do, but, there's nothing more compelling than a repentant sinner...Jesus loves them best.<P>Catnip =^^=

I just want to ditto what cat said..I do not consider you one of "them"<BR>Love ya and God Bless...