My poor tortured husband has been sititng on this information since Wednesday. He was afraid of my reaction so he kept quiet until today when he presented me with a print out from his computer at work. <P>As I have mentioned, my husband was injured at work on November 3, and workman's comp and the company are fighting his legitimate and valid claim, even though they have the emergency room report, the doctor's report and the therapist's report saying this was a work related injury.<P>He's OK now, and went back to work full time last week. But all those weeks since November 3 of either being off work or working only twenty hours a week have taken it's financial toll on us in addition to our already less than stellar financial situation.<P>Wednesday, he accessed his payroll information for his Friday check to see what his take home would be so we could make plans to pay some bills. Car insurance is due, hell, it's late, and the truck payment is overdue, as well.<P>The payroll records showed that the county took more than half his check before taxes for support, then the taxes, health care deductions, with the net just a little over $100. Can't do too much with that.<P>So, by sending those reams of documents to the county and the NY court system, they now know where he is working and have tapped into his paycheck and now will continue to do so, leaving us next to nothing to live on.<P>Now that we know this is going to continue to happen, there is no incentive to work if he won't be allowed to keep enough to live on. <P>We discussed this at length and have decided that since they are going to pick our pockets before the March 16th hearing, he will quit his job and work elsewhere in an attempt to earn enough to pay obligations. We will continue to send 17% to 25%, even though, according to them, it isn't enough.<P>So, Kids, the extremely aggressive child support agencies have finally acheived the same intrusive, tenacious and confiscatory practices as the Internal Revenue Service.<P>I know this is going to sound really, really paranoid, but I hear a weird clicking on my phone I never noticed before a few weeks ago...now I am wondering if we are being tapped. I'm glad we're moving.<P>Catnip =^^=<P> <P>

Ooooh catnip!! I don't even know what to say... like you haven't been through enough YET?! I sure have a lot of questions for God when I get there! <P>Maybe I'll get to see ya in Duluth this year.<BR>Sooo sorry about the finances I hope your lawyer pulls through big time!<BR>Jenny

Catnip,<BR>I can't begin to tell you how sorry I am. I really do know how you feel.<BR>Be very careful about when your h quits his job. When my h quit his so that we could move back to Pennsylvania, cs officials threatened to have him arrested because he didn't immediately report a new job address to them, even though we continued to pay the required support payments. Our lawyer says that they have the ability to do that.<BR>And don't blame the fact that you sent in court documents. Child support agencies can trace the payor by SSN through W2 forms and even through bank accounts. They definitely have more power than the IRS, at least in my eyes, because everybody hates the IRS, but everybody thinks by helping the cs. system by turning over information that they are really soing something good for the poor abandoned child of a deadbeat dad.<BR>As for phone tapping: don't count out the possibility that you are being listened to or recorded. I worked for a private security and I know it can be done very easily, regardless of whether or not its illegal.<BR>All I can do is pray for you more.<BR>-cd

Catnip, Donna is right... The judge MADE our ex-son-in-law tell him right in court where he was living and working or go straight to jail for contempt, and told him that if he ever changed residence or jobs again without notifying our daughter's attorney, he WOULD go to jail...no ifs, ands, or buts!<P>Also, in our state, when we hire a new employee at our business, we are required by law to fax in a "new hire report" to the state. So, if your state has the same requirement, your H is screwed, no matter where he goes to work. The only way to get around it is by getting paid cash under the table, which is illegal.

Catnip,<P>I know all to well what we have to report to the state, working in payroll. All new employee have to be reported and at my last job we required all new hires to sign an acknowledgement whether they knew of any child support orders against them. It kills me because I am also in charge of remitting the deductions we take for child support to Minnesota Child Support. I use to think nothing of this task, now it kills me everytime and I wonder how "screwed" the poor employees are getting. I have a substitute teacher on the payroll who sometimes doesn't even make enough for the deduction and the state issues a warning to us as the employer immediately, that we would could be in contempt. Then I have to call and explain that the teacher didn't work enough, blah-blah-blah! My attitude has changed so much. It is so hard to deal with this I may have to ask that this task be done by someone else.<P><BR>Carrie<P>[This message has been edited by carriemom (edited February 12, 2001).]<p>[This message has been edited by carriemom (edited February 12, 2001).]

I am so sorry Catnip. Geezzz... what a crappy system. Once again, something set up to assist the innocent (children of a marriage) used and abused until it is just a nightmare. <P>I wish I had something to offer other than just words of support. I cannot come up with ideas on how to get around this. Clinton pardons a BIG tax dodger, and you guys get skinned and hung up to dry by the CS system. Any efforts you make to protect income will bite you big time with IRS. What a system they have going. <P>Is moving to Mexico out of the question? Take care... Carolyn <BR>

<BR>The federal government mandates a child support compliance lookup for all new hires. This was written into the Welfare Reform Bill, and the logic was that requiring "deadbeat dads" to pay CS would reduce the burden on the welfare system. As one would expect, "function creep" has led this system into a de facto national employment tracking system, as any new hires post are now reviewable online. <P>A good historical account of what happened is here:<P> <A HREF="http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a38d91e65785c.htm" TARGET=_blank>http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a38d91e65785c.htm</A> <P>Bystander<BR>