You all know who this crazy b***ch is don't you ? Does the name anthea ring a bell. ( If it doesn't look back at the thread headed "horrible, awful " on Feb. 13th.) She has had so many names I can't remember all of them.<BR>I told all of you she would not go away but would just come back with a different name and a different story.<BR>Just blow her off people. She ain't worth the trouble.<P>Jtigger

It isn't that the OW is "kissing our collective a$$e$" but that the OW's here have heart and soul and depth and understanding. You do not. I do not believe for one minute that your MM has left his Wife for you and has declared to her he is divorcing her. I am sure this is what you would like to see happen; it is every OW's dream to 'win' the MM away from his wife and family as a way to momentarily feel 'good' about yourself because you lack so much in your own right to feel good about in any real substantive way...a hollow victory, for sure.<P>You have quite an imagination. Maybe I was born at night, but I wasn't born last night.<P>Catnip =^^=

I don't know who anthea is, sorry I'm not her. And dear, dear catnip, nobody ASKED you to believe it. Maybe, you have your heads in the sand because in your world, a marriage is supposed to last forever. Sorry to diappoint you but I'm not a Brother Grimm and I ain't writing fairy tales. Face it, some marriages just DON"T WORK OUT and it's not a game so I'm not looking at it like I "won" him. These are peoples lives that are being affected, not some GAME where there are winners and losers. I'm not even trying to say that I am better than his wife is. But HE knew he wasn't happy and more importantly SHE knew he wasn't happy. I don't for one minute believe that we will not have problems in our relationship as every couple does, but as YOU all pointed out, Our child does need a home with TWO parents. So, say what you want about me, I twisted no ones arm and held a gun to no ones head to do ANYTHING.

Okay, chica, let's get down to it. It's not really a question of being better (although, in this situation that's probably so) it's about accepting ownership for your mistakes and taking steps to correct wrongs you've done. That's called being mature and responsible. Look it up and then have someone explain the meaning to you. It'll be hard, but you'll get…eventually. The difference between you and me (the words petulant, whiny, self-absorbed, immature, irritating little snit come to mind), is that I have admitted my mistakes, taken ownership of them and have tried to accept the consequences with grace, poise, and integrity…instead of mouthing off and trying to make others miserable. So ANYWAYZ, if you're so confident in the "rightness" of your relationship, why are you so pressed to convince others? Your arguments weren't very well thought out. The forum you chose to voice them was a very poor selection. You have nothing but personal opinion to support your deviant perspective. And, your debating skills are sorely lacking. I don’t know, folks, I give her a two for effort, but an overall zero would be my final score.<P>Someone get the air freshener...it sure smells "funny" over here.

there IS no difference in you and me. I'm sure when YOU were pg people thought the same thing about you that they are saying about me. Time has just passed. Now, I don't recall ever saying that it was RIGHT to have an affair, but what's done, is done and I can't change the past and I don't regret keeping my baby. POINT BLANK AND PERIOD.

If this is the same ow who was posting on TOW and was given this url in a thread, she is lying her butt off, either to us or to Tow. On tow she was whining that mm didn't want her to have the baby (you would be shocked at how many w's actually do lurk at tow), and wanting to know if the w found out about the baby if she would stay with the h or leave. So don't let her upset you ladies. I just hope that the mm's w is as strong as you are and stays with her h. <P>anOW, you seem upset because betrayed spouses don't bow down and kiss ow's feet. That ain't gonna happen. There are ow who are welcome here, because they do not go out of their way to be hateful and cause pain as you have. <P><BR><P>------------------<BR>Deb<P>Hepatitis C, Please educate yourself ! <A HREF="http://www.hepatitis-central.com/<P>In" TARGET=_blank>http://www.hepatitis-central.com/<P>In</A> memory of a very dear friend <A HREF="http://fathom.org/teemingmillions/wally.adp" TARGET=_blank>http://fathom.org/teemingmillions/wally.adp</A>

oh catnip, add me to spitting soda out at my computer from LMAO. i am so sure that all of a sudden the MM came to MB and saw that he should leave his wife and be with his child and beloved OW. that is absolutely hilarious. not as funny as flowerseed and gemini, they always make my day.<P>happy_girl

I find it interesting that he decided to leave his wife and CHILDREN to be with someone like you. Especially if his reason for leaving them is to give this poor child 2 parents!!!! You may have been directed here, but it wasn't an invitation to be a b@#$% to anyone who has been here for a long time, and earned the right to tell you where to go!! I have joined in with Happy Girl, and Catnip with finding hilarity in anything you have written. You need to keep your facts straight, and if it is true that this poor sop of a man(if he can be called that) has come here, read some of what has been said, and decided to divorce his wife, then you both deserve eachother, and we hope to see this man's wife on this board. We have TONS of advice to give her on how to deal with situations like this. Yes, there is a HUGE difference between you and Obratti and you and me! See, Obratti and I have dealt with what we have done, and are reeping what we have sown. I know that Obratti has gone through a lot to get where she is, and is willing to raise her son alone, or have the visitation from the father. BUT, the father's WIFE is also very involved in any of those decisions. In my case, we hope that the OM never does find out, and like I said before, a DADDY is the one who raises the child, not just the one who provides the sperm. You are definately a very selfish, insecure, whiny immature female! Especially to be happy that you supposedly broke up this marriage. Seems awfully strange that earlier, you said that you were "sharing" this male with his wife and that everyone was happy with that arrangement. Keep it up, and you could try to make us believe that he now never loved his wife to begin with and that's why he whored around with you in the first place!!!!<P><BR>Tigger<P>PS, sorry guys, I just couldn't resist that last comment, or the fact that I can't call this person a woman or her MM a man. <p>[This message has been edited by tigger4jdt (edited February 23, 2001).]

Oops, did I upset you? Golly, I'm soooo sorry. It was only 3 months ago that I was "PG". Tell me, what are people saying about you? Looky here, Ms POINT BLANK AND PERIOD, my issue with you is not your choice to keep your baby, because I made the same choice. I DO have issue with your flagrant disregard for the people your actions/words are lancing. Your agenda is very simply to be abrasive and antagonistic. The flip attitude you are demonstrating is going to be your downfall. Once the reality of the situation sets in, you're going to choke on your own arrogance. I sure hope you get your head out of your [censored] before that little baby comes. (can I say that?)

I just had to respond...I just love my girls!!!!<BR>Dimwit yes anow I am talking to you now. Not one time during this entire post did you ever take OWNERSHIP for your actions...plain and simple what you did was wrong and according to the universal laws of life you will have to pay for that. Now you say your MM read this thread and at that instant knew that you are the one he has to be with...come on now little girl please read your post again to see how damn stupid and infantile you really do sound! <BR>I feel sorry for your child I don't give a hot damn that you can provide for this child financially because you cannot give this child what he needs emotionally for you are an emotional retard! <P>By now anow you should know you don't belong here and its time for you to beat it! SCRAM!

I still just have the one question. Why did you come here for support, if your life is perfect?? Why did you come to a site for marriage building? Those are the questions that you seem to dodge. <P>I see that you came here to stir things up. Like I said no morals, surprise, surprise. I agree with catnip and happy girl. Of course I have been laughing the whole time. Nothing like a little humor to entertain us. Just so you know if you came here to cause problems, you just provided a little comic relief, what a good laugh this has been!<P>babstr.

anow,<BR>Thou shalt not commit adultry.<P>Thou shalt not covet thy neighbors goods.<P>Thou shalt not steal.<P>Ever hear of those?<P>No?<P>Then the day your child does not "Honor thy Father and thy Mother" shouldn't bother you one bit......heh...heh...heh...<P>May be YOU should keep holy the sabboth day.<BR>Could help you at this point. Don't you think?<P>------------------<BR>Imagine....

I cannot believe that it has taken 51 posts to make anOW understand the simple meaning of SCRAM. <P>No mas, please!!! Ms. anOW has wasted enough of our precious time...<BR>

OK, Kids...<P>We've had our fun. We did exactly what K asked us not to...to get caught up in the OW drama. But, she did provide a valuable service for us to vent and harangue and carry on and it was good humor. She managed to get fifty plus responses which must make her feel pretty gull darn important. She needs that validation, and we needed to mess with her head, so we all got what we wanted.<P>It was a great exercise in claw sharpening, honing our skills should we ever need them, and bantering with someone who pushed our collective buttons while we annihilated her.<P>I thoroughly enjoyed it. I found it great fun to exchange barbs and have a lively thread filled with slinging insults and look forward to the next party crasher from GloryB. In the meantime, we can all go back to our high-mindedness and dispense our wisdom, experiences and comfort one another now that we know we can hold our own.<P>Good workout, Ladies. Now lets get a steam and a rub down and a kiwi strawberry yogurt shake.<P>Catnip =^^= <p>[This message has been edited by catnip (edited February 23, 2001).]

I just got to tell yall...I just love you guys!!!!

anOW, <BR>You waste of flesh, all I have to say is that what you do to others will come back to haunt you times three. <BR>How dare you think that you are justified in sleeping with another woman's husband. What kind of drugs are you on to make you think this is right?!? You will get what's coming to you. <BR>If you ever, in your puny little mind, thought that the MM would leave his W and marry you, then you deserve him, cause he will end up doing it to you too. Hope you fall in love and have all your dreams destroyed...<BR>Had to go there, sorry for venting for a minute... Back to normal.. <BR>BTW, this is so true:<BR>"I am not willing to throw away 29 yrs. together for a "roll in the hay". Who cares what he told ow while they boinked....it wasn't true or he'd still be with her."<BR>Good point, gemini. <BR>Thanks for letting me have the opportunity to vent... I have said enough.<BR>