Well this morning she tried to contact husband but I was there and she went speeding by without stopping, why does she not get the point, her childs birthday is coming up maybe she expects h to buy the kid something? ( very very materialistic woman) h has not seen child since Feb 8th nor does he want to, he feels no bond and really does not want to screw the kids head up ( his mother is quite able to do that) This OW is very sick, she tells everyone that my H is her boyfriend, tells her family that he is single, etc , what can I do she is driving me nuts, she wants H to tell his family so bad, she wanted him to tell his mother and father, his mother knows but no way will his father ever know he is too old and not very well, she thinks that if it is out in the open that I will kick h out and he will go live with her, she is very strange any ideas how I can handle this kook? HELP, If we decided to let this oc into our lives and tell our children you can bet that there would be no way in hell she would let h anywhere near the oc, that is not really what she wants she wants my H, I am truly dealing with a loony tune!! this sounds bad but every time I hear about an accident on the news I can't help hoping its her, bad I know but I can't help it, I truly beleive that even if she ever marries she will still be after my h, sometimes I get so angry at him I wish that he would go and be with her, ( she is so ugly and so fat that I could just laugh at him, she is also very bossy)but I really would not like that, your mind just goes in every different way, it has been since dec 97 that I found out about affair and oc at the same time and you know it still is there everyday sometimes I just want out! anyone else feel like that? before I found out I had a funny feeling about things, I had a dream that my h was in the hospital and told me that he had anothr child, this was about 5 months before I found out about it all very strange I tell you, anyone else feel it? just curious,

fizzpop,<BR>I wonder if all the super uglies act this way. Alot of what you have said describes the ow in our life or shoud I say the wanna be in our lives. I think your probley right about the oc birthday someday hopefully ow will get it. I to had a dream that my h was screwing ow and produced a child and it was a boy all before any of this came out and everything I dreamed has happened. About wishing things would happen last night we were under tornadoe watches when I heard that it was heading ow way I really wished it would have wiped her out also or at least took her to china. So yes we do have these thoughts. with love flowerseed<p>[This message has been edited by flowerseed (edited April 12, 2001).]

Dear fizzpop,<P>Here is my little story - I have posted it before but think it is worth repeating.<P>A few years ago, I was reading the newspaper and on the front page was a story about a murder in a town close to ours. The victim was a girl whose married lover pushed her off of a porch and killed her when she threatened to tell his wife about them. I didn't know the girl at all, but for some reason, I kept thinking about the story. I would even catch myself doodling the name of the dead girl when I was on the phone. Just couldn't seem to get it out of my head. One day, a couple weeks later, my mom mentioned to me that the dead girls grandfather had stopped by our business and had broken down in tears while talking to mom about the murder. I said, "Oh please mom, don't ever have anything to do with that family." I don't know why I said that. Mom looked at me like I was nuts. It was cold and uncaring, I know, but I felt an overwhelming threat just at the mention of that family. After that I totally forgot about the whole thing. <P>Two years later, my h has an a. Here is the punchline: The ow is the sister of the dead girl. Not only that, but you know the dead girl's name, that I doodled over and over? The oc's name is the same, with just a slight variation in spelling.<P>I don't know how or why I knew that family would be a threat, but I guess somehow I had a forewarning of sorts.<P>cd

CD,WOW! That's really spooky. Runs in her family, hunh? You'd think XOW would've learned by example!<P>fizzpop, I'm sure (pre-DDay) dreams about these things are not unusual, stories like flowerseed's, and I had dreams beforehand too; then I would ask my H "is there anything I ought to know?! Why would I dream that?" and of course he "didn't know", the liar. As for wishing the XOW dead or gone, that's natural too. <P>But what to do about your real, living psyo XOW is a serious issue. Can you move? At least change your contact #s, routes to work if you can, etc. If she's that bad, you certainly have reason to protect your family from her. Keep documentation of her contacts in case you have to present a case to police to get a restraining order. Don't give her any leverage for blackmail (open up where you can and tell your mom to help protect your dad or your kids). She's a control freak and if she can't play her games with you, she'll hopefully find a new sucker.<P>Blessings,<BR>J (2+ years recovery and happy today!)

I JUST HAVE A QUESTION<BR>IS YOUR H PAYING CS?<BR>IF SO THEN DON'T BUY OC NOTHING THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF CS.<BR>IF AND WHEN YOU DECIDE TO LET OC IN YOUR LIVES PROVE HER WRONG BY BEING INVOLVED 100% IT WILL EAT HER ALIVE. THEN SHE WILL GET THE PICTURE THAT YOUR H DOENOT WANT HER IT IS ONLY ABOUT THE OC.<BR>IN MY SITUATION THE OW CLAIMED THAT SHE LOVED MY H EVEN THOUGH HE TOLD HER HE WAS NOT LEAVING HIS WIFE AND 3 KIDS. SO I GUESS SHE FIGURED I WILL LEAVE H BUT I PROVED HER WRONG I AM 100% INVOLVED WE GET THE OC EVERY OTHER WEEKEND AND I KNOW IT IS EATING HER ALIVE INSIDE. AND THAT IS GOOD FOR HER THAT LIFE SHE THOUGHT HER AND MY H WAS GOING TO HAVE WITH OC IS BEING LIVED BY US AND OC.

Fizzpop, <BR>I have that problem too. Everytime I hear about an accident I cross my fingers that it is OW. Then I start the daydreaming about how everything would be ok if it was. No more worrying about the whole situation anymore. I know it's bad to think about, but I don't mean to it just happens. Sure.......<BR>

CD...that is too weird!<P>Fizzpop...I had dreams constantly. Either I was dreaming H was with an other woman or I was losing him somehow. They were so vivid. They were almost as painful as when I actually found out.<P>Love and Prayers<P>bw

Hey fizz...what about a restraining order?