I admired your courage to fight for the innocent children's rights. They are innocent and I dont know why these angry women who were betrayed by their husbands takes their anger towards the OC's. Blame it on your husbands, the other woman or even yourselves. Maybe some of you were useless wives to begin with and push H's to affairs.<P>Other scenario, maybe some of your H's does have personality disorders or sexual addictions and that OW's are just victims too. Do you really know who your husbands are? I suggest you should start getting to know what kind of husbands you have. Most of them are very deceiving. So beware wives out there who thinks their husbands became honest after confession but actually not!

Heres a suggestion...why dont you and ole lw go away togehter. Email each other or something. Just quit with the bs here. Go somewhere where you can fight for childens rights. This is where we "angry women" can go to get this out. We are in pain and we do not need this sh*t. If you are truely tryng to do some good on the internet then go do it. The kind of good you people suggest you want to do is not needed here. It doesnt help us and it doesnt help these children either.<p>[This message has been edited by broken_wings (edited April 17, 2001).]

LesW,<BR>Thank you for your support, and I will always fight for the innocent children. I just don't think many of these women trully want to hear other peoples view points. <P>However I don't feel it is ever the wife's fault her husband cheats. Even if there were problems in the marriage, cheating is not the answer.<P>But, I do agree that many of these women do not know their spouse as well as they think. Many of these men are artful liars and cheats and just go back to the OW when the dust settles. Their lies get smarter. And they often lie to the OW. I know that these women don't want to hear it but I feel their anger lies with their husband. And they should focus it there.

bye bye

Oh Gosh! you hit the target right in the middle LW. You're very right about these smart liar spouses. And you're right about them going back to OW's when the dust settles. Sounds so familiar! I feel sorry for the W's who believes their spouses has changed and promised honesty, commitment, etc.. but actually its part of H's games. <P>Don't get me wrong women who are in pain, just maybe some of you are in denials and just believes what H's tells you.<P>I'm just concerned about the Oc's issues being condemned despite their innocence. Where are your hearts? <P>Those resentful women who force their H's to "no contact" to OC, you're just pushing your H's to lie even more. So beware too. If H truly love and show's interest to Oc's, let them be. They shld be admired for taking responsibility towards OC's.<P>LW, I join you in supporting the innocent children!

LesW,<BR>Thanks for your support. I too think it is sad that these women are not only encouraging but enabling their spouse to cheat and lie more. A child is a responsibility of BOTH the man and woman that conceived them. It takes two! And believe me I am sure that these men knew when they did the deed that the consequence could be pregnancy. In my opinion there is NO excuse for abandonment of a child. But again that is MY opinion.<P>Oh also, these people seem to suggest in one of their posts that there is something odd about our initials LW being the same. How do you suggest we show them we are not the same person?<BR>

Lurking Woman and LesW, You are not going to convert these ladies and gentlemen who have been through hell. You have not walked in their shoes and until you do you will never understand the pain they are in . This is marriage builders, this is not the rights of the OC/OW board. If you have a marriage problem you want to discuss why not take it GQ2 or something ? You have made your point, but when you insist on grinding it in people's faces your voice loses it's credablility.<P>------------------<BR>Deb<P>Hepatitis C, Please educate yourself ! <A HREF="http://www.hepatitis-central.com/<P>In" TARGET=_blank>http://www.hepatitis-central.com/<P>In</A> memory of a very dear friend <A HREF="http://fathom.org/teemingmillions/wally.adp" TARGET=_blank>http://fathom.org/teemingmillions/wally.adp</A>

You are the weakest links - Good Bye - take the walk of shame now !!!!!!!!!!!

Its funny how some of you insist that I am championing for the OW. Number one...read my story that I posted a ways back. I was a BW. I had a husband cheat numerous times. I received a phone call from a woman telling me she had bore my husbands child. It turned out after testing not to be his, but I was the one that insisted he visit, he find out if it was his, and he be a father to the child if it was. Because I feel that is the right thing to do. I understand many of you are dealing with a lot of pain and greief, but the children are still innocent. Regarding the OW do what you want, I am not championing for them. But I do feel in reality, you need to be sure that your man is not cheating still because many men cheat and smooth things over only to go back to cheating.