I am quite confident you are someone's OW- or a mean spirited woman who is determined to hurt someone here on the board. I do not believe you are my OW however. Even if you are, I have no reason to believe you. I believe my H who I have loved and cared for for years. He spends every day since telling me of the affair of his regret for what he has done. He sees it as a big mistake that both of us have to live with for the rest of our lives.That means you were the mistake-not me. YOUr child also was a mistake, pure and simple. I am sorry you feel so unloved that you feel you have to manipulate posts and taunt me or some other woman on this board, but it will not work. You will never have our life, the love of a husband, the simple pleasure of a committed relationship that is worth it to work through such difficult times. You got scraps from someone's life, and you will never have the whole enchelada. I hope one day you find true love with someone who can commit to you, but given your mean spiritedness, I wonder if that is possible. I hope you find someone to parent the child, and truly be a father to her. I wish her no ill harm. But we will not be in her life, now or ever. Accept that and move on.We are.

That is funny because he has seen his daughter many times and he has communicated with me and the other OW. Do you prefer to just keep digging your head in the sand? Your foolosh. The fact is I don't want your husband, but I don't want lies being told. Maybe you ought to make sure you babysit him 24/7 because he has found plenty of time. I believed him too, for several years, and then I found out there were more. Many more. He lies to get what HE wants. But if your the fool to believe him go ahead, but if you decide you want some proof just ask because there is plenty available.

lsb,<BR>Good to hear you are strong just like I knew you would be . I'm feeling much better now you are one super momma and wife. with love flowerseed

bw's ow/lurking woman/whatever name you come up with next,<P>When you get tired of pretending to be lsb's h's ow, you can pretend to be mine. I won't mind a bit.<P>You're acting about as trashy as she does, so the role shouldn't be too much of a stretch for you.<P>lsb, <BR>Good for you. You are terrific.<BR>with love,<BR>cd

lsb,<P>Stay strong and confident. Don't give up any power that you have over your marriage!<P>Love and Hugs,<BR>Mitzi

lsb, allow me to address the OW, and thank you in advance for letting me...<P>Although I've been on both sides, I would like to address this from an OW standpoint:<P>On behalf of repentent OW's like me (and so many others on this site)...<P>We have a hard enough time trying to show our remorse, rebuild marriages, and put integrity and honor back into our lives, without women like you showing everyone what the worst case for an OW is. <P>I came here (to this board) to show support to these men and women, and I find I am becomming JUST AS ANGRY and HURT as they are!!<P>Rebuild your life with your baby, would you??? What kind of example are you setting for your children? <p>[This message has been edited by new_beginning (edited April 23, 2001).]

IF YOU DIDN'T FEEL SCORNED OR DIDN'T WANT THE EX-MM, you wouldn't be here. Don't come around under the guise of a concerned person in order to spew your vileness. You are obvious.Everything about you is. And that is pathetic. Pathetic ,but typical of these two-bit ow.

The fact is I am not pretending to be anyone's OW. I was ONE of LSB's husbands other woman. And I have the emails from him to prove it. And to prove what he is telling her is a lie.

new beginning, thank you for your kind words. I hope your life, whatever is, is a good one. I wish my OW would move on, live her life with child, and close this chapter on our lives forever. Will she ever let us? Probably not till CS payments go away,and I doubt they ever will.

lsb wanna be ow, Man you sure show how stupid you are did you already forget you have his child and he was just with you. Can everybody say GEE I"M SMART! One thing you can do is let us know what kinda drugs your on that makes you so forgetful. I would like some, I have lots of things I would like to forget. flowerseed<P>[This message has been edited by flowerseed (edited April 23, 2001).]<p>[This message has been edited by flowerseed (edited April 23, 2001).]

You're welcome <B>lsb</B>,<P>Now is there any way to stop this??? It's hurting my spirit, I can't imagine what it's doing to yours...

Dear lsb,<P>What a wonderful reply you posted to BWs OW! She nor any other OW could EVER know what you are talking about though.<P>Only years of growing together and being committed to each other can make a person understand what you mean when you say that you are believing your H, not blindly, but because the allegations don't add up. <P>OWs give themselves more credit than they deserve. In just about every case, wives KNOW that something is not right. They may not know the details and particulars, but we have our suspicisions right from the start. It is that same "sixth sense" that makes us know when our spouses have finished taking out the trash and rejoined the family at the dinner table.<P>It is that sense of truly being one with another person that eludes the OWs and makes them so bitter like BW's OW.<P>The grace and dignity that you showed under fire, lsb, is the reason why you were the clear winner in your H's eyes. So let's ignore BW's OW and hope that she climbs back into the wood like the termite she seems to be.<P>love,<BR>heavenly

I agree with Heavenly...LSB you are a true lady!

Heavenly....<BR>Take out the trash and rejoin the family at the dinner table...that's a classic. I'm gonna have to borrow that when I go on one of my ***** sessions when noone's around.<P>I'm an analytical person...let's examine lurking's motives:<P>She's concerned: If she was concerned, I think it was flower that pointed out in a previous post that she would find a far more appropriate, needles to say private way to protect LSB's interests. Further, I she were concerned about her child, she would simply go on with her life and let the BW deal with her H.<P>She's angry: She's angry at the lies BW may have told her to get his needs met. I'd like to think that as adults, we take the time to learn from OUR mistakes. Is she angry at herself for having sex with a man that was uncommitted to her (ie...sex before marriage). Let's not even throw the 'He was a married man' variable into the equation.<P>She wants to hurt W for being the one H chose to stay with and validate: I don't think I ever want to viewed as a mistake in someone's life. I SURELY wouldn't want my child to be viewed that way. What better way to make sure the BW's life is as miserable as her's than to cast doubts and try to destroy on of the BW's support threads?<P>I'm just curious...does the OW really and truly love their child? Just think...if they really truly loved their child, they'd be doing everything in their power to make sure any potential contact with father's family will be without drama.<P>How about a message about the child? Nevermind the affair, that's over.

What an insightful post.<P>This ow is not the least bit concerned about lsb. She got duped and it will probably happen again. These ow have very low self esteem and absolutely no morals. (As seen, in more ways than one)<P>She SHOULD be concerned about oc and herself only. She was duped and is STILL in denial. She doesn't have a life and wants to get even for being duped. She's just that kind of, what ever you call it.

I'm sorry, I don't remember the exact story in the Bible, but remember the man who offered to cut the child in half and the *one* mother said, go ahead, and the other (real mother) said no, let her have the child??? Was that Moses? <P>For some reason this story comes to mind at this time... where is the TRUE CARING for the needs of the CHILD when all that is expressed has to do with "your H this," and "your H that"????<P>That poor child.

nb,<BR>it was King Solomon (the wise)... good point

<B>ENOUGH!</B><P>lsb, You are a true lady and you show it. I think you are showing great courage and good grace under the pressures you are facing.<P>OW, You can be a lady, but you must try. I am sorry for the pain you are feeling, but you must get past it if you and your baby are ever going to have a good life.<P>My heart hurts for both of you. <P>Many blessings to you both.<BR>--HBC

<B>Dearest Members of the Pregnancy/Child Forum</B><P><BR>I am sorry that this situation requires I repeat this and the action again. I hope you will all understand.<P><BR>I have locked this thread not because of its originator or any other legitimate poster. I have done this because of the posting of other people and the cruel things that were said.<P><BR><B>I am asking that any of the threads/posts from these members in question be ignored and for no one to respond. A few people have already said that if they are ignored they will go away. I believe that is exactly what will happen.</B><P>In advance I appreciate your cooperation in this matter. It's more than overdue for this forum to be the safe place it was intended to be. <P><BR>------------------<BR><B>Xarelel</B><BR><I>Moderator of Pregnancy/Child Forum <BR>& CO-Moderator of Recovery Forum</I><p>[This message has been edited by Xarelel (edited April 23, 2001).]