I had a paternity test done with me, child and OM. The test came back with a percentage of 99.9965%. The Om tested could not be excluded as the father. I just want to make sure the this reads as 99.9965% that OM is the father. I guess I am starting to jetters on telling H. My D had the same genetic markers of me and OM.

RY:<P>It doesn't. Without testing your husband, you really can't say (although it would be highly unlikely that they have the same or similar genetic markers).<P>I would suggest that you <B>not</B> tell the OM, and tell your husband. Then the two of you need to discuss what you're going to do about your marriage (after the dust settles, and I'd give him at least a few weeks to process this).

Regretful,<P>I don't have anything to add, just to tell you to listen to K. He really knows what he is talking about and is in our H's positions.<P>Tigger

moving on up

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Regretfully Yours:
I had a paternity test done with me, child and OM. The test came back with a percentage of 99.9965%. The Om tested could not be excluded as the father. I just want to make sure the this reads as 99.9965% that OM is the father. I guess I am starting to jetters on telling H. My D had the same genetic markers of me and OM.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">

<small>[ January 20, 2003, 09:49 PM: Message edited by: whatif? ]</small>

up, up up

whatif? Are you a geneticist? I'm curious as to how you are so certain of the results of a test that you did not perform?<P>Don't mean to be rude, just very interested.<P>------------------<BR>terri<BR><B>Courage</B><P>Whatever course you decide upon,<BR>there is always someone to tell you<BR>that you are wrong.<P>There are always difficulties arising<BR>which tempt you to believe that your <BR>critics are right.<P>To map out a course of action <BR>and follow it to an end <BR>requires courage.<P><I>Ralph Waldo Emerson</I>

Regretful,<P>I just wanted to let you know that you are still in my prayers as the day gets closer. Please let us know if there is anything else you need prayer for, and how things go for you on Sat.<P>Tigger

[QUOTE]Originally posted by terri:
[b]whatif? Are you a geneticist? I'm curious as to how you are so certain of the results of a test that you did not perform?

Don't mean to be rude, just very interested.

<small>[ January 20, 2003, 09:50 PM: Message edited by: whatif? ]</small>

Although I'm not a geneticist, per se, I do have a science background an a smattering of statistics.<P>At this point, NOTHING can be excluded. What the test says is that the child and the OM appear to have the same genetic markers (within 99.9965%). So it's highly likely (but not certain) that the child is the OM's.<P>You simply can't rule out the husband as a potential father until his DNA is tested. If his DNA isn't close, then it's a sure bet that the OM is the father. But if the father's DNA comes close to matching, a more detailed genetic analysis may be needed (I don't know which of the genetic tests were used for the initial testing).<P>The bottom line is in this type of situation, unless everyone is tested, there's no way to PROVE parentage---it's only "highly suggestive".

I called the lab regarding the test. He told me that all tests follow the same procedure and if my test had come out with a 100% he could disinclude OM, but it didn't. Obviously he could not tell me for sure and talk about results over the phone but he said I can see your test and I can assure you that your was right. He said there are 9 standard alleals(sp) that they test in all of their DNA tests. So by my test all 9 alleals(sp) in my D matched mine or OM, he told me to check the web site and they had a fuax test there, all 9 alleals(sp) were the same markers on mine.

<BR>terri,<P>Quick primer on DNA testing:<P>(1) Current DNA testing cannot prove a man is the father of a child. What's documented is the amount of common DNA, expressed as a percentage. The problem for "proving" paternity is that two men selected at random *could* have such similar DNA that the test would fail to distinguish between them. Obviously, the more accurate the test, the less likely this is to occur.<P>(2) Current DNA testing can determine with absolute certainty that a man is NOT the father of a child. If there is not common DNA between the child and the alleged father, this means it is genetically impossible that the child is the offspring of the alleged father.<P>In RY's case, it is <I>exremely</I> unlikely that the child is her husband's. This is because the odds of a similar DNA pulled at random from the population are 1 in 28,571. But technically, until her husband is tested, we cannot rule out the possibility that her husband is the father. Obviously, were I a betting man, I would wager that RY's H is not the child, and as a practical matter RY should not entertain false hopes that her husband's DNA might be that one chance in 28,571.<P>Bystander

Bystander,<P>Thanks, but I wasn't requesting a genetics lesson. I was asking if the person who posted so difinitively was an expert. It always troubles me when people post answers to scientific questions with such assurance unless they have a significant background in said science.<P>We wouldn't speak with the assurance of doctors here if someone presented with a certain set of symptoms, would we?<P>As I said before, this is not meant at all to be rude, I just like to know that people who speak with such certainty about a subject are actually educated in some way on that subject.<P>Thanks, anyhow, for the lesson! <P>------------------<BR>terri<BR><B>Courage</B><P>Whatever course you decide upon,<BR>there is always someone to tell you<BR>that you are wrong.<P>There are always difficulties arising<BR>which tempt you to believe that your <BR>critics are right.<P>To map out a course of action <BR>and follow it to an end <BR>requires courage.<P><I>Ralph Waldo Emerson</I>

[QUOTE]Originally posted by terri:
[b]Bystander,

Thanks, but I wasn't requesting a genetics lesson. I was asking if the person who posted so difinitively was an expert. It always troubles me when people post answers to scientific questions with such assurance unless they have a significant background in said science.

We wouldn't speak with the assurance of doctors here if someone presented with a certain set of symptoms, would we?

As I said before, this is not meant at all to be rude, I just like to know that people who speak with such certainty about a subject are actually educated in some way on that subject.

Thanks, anyhow, for the lesson!

<small>[ January 20, 2003, 09:51 PM: Message edited by: whatif? ]</small>

I just had to throw my 2 cents in and no I am not an expert just been researching dna tests for a long time, A DNA test cannot PROVE paternity without a doubt it can only give you a probability percentage, it can prove that someone is NOT the father though, if the tested man is the only man that a person has been with then of course he will be the father if the h is tested and found out not to be, but if a person had multiple partners then it would be a different story, just my 2 cents, whatif I would really like tohear your story if you feel like posting it