Hey Guys,<P><BR> Just what is sex, anyway? <BR> Are we talkin' Slick Willies' definition, or the traditional version??!!<P> Does it depend on what the definition of "is" is???<P> God bless semantics,<P>------------------<BR>Gregg

<P><BR> And cigars!!<P>------------------<BR>Gregg

Hey guys,<P><BR> I am way confused,<P> Mrs. J felt like having sex with Catnip, Gemini's talkin' about gettin' drunk and peeing at a funeral, BW is screaming at a box of condoms,K is ( Please tell me you don't drink Hamms!!), well, K is doin' what I'm doin' , Jenny is havin' sex with Jim Beam, NGU is talkin' about puttin' handlebars on Zebra, Trace is checkin' nuts, ( take a hint, Mr. Trace!!), Gem is NOT spelling relief R O L A I D S, I have this monkey thing goin'' Where will it end??? <P> God bless you Isb<BR> Humor is my out,<BR> Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem,<BR> God bless you Isb,<P>------------------<BR>Gregg

Gregg, you ARE a funny guy! <P>Well, I have no OC in my life, but this particular thread "speaks" to me. Although I did have a one time close encounter a year ago with a friend who turned into an enemy thereafter (and, NO, I didn't do anything bad to him), I have been without benefit of intimacy with a man for a minimum of 4 years ... closer to 5 years, I think, but back then, I wasn't keeping real close track because I thought it was a temporary issue. Of course, my husband has been living apart from me for 3 plus years now... the most recent two months actually in another state.<P>There are times when I think of buying stock in Eveready, but the bunny turns me off for some reason. It's tough, though - I work in a community college and there are some quite gorgeous young men about whom I sometimes find myself having quite sinful thoughts ... remember that song: "I like dreamin' 'cause dreamin' can make you smile..."<P>I still want my husband, though ...<BR><P>------------------<BR>terri<BR><B>Courage</B><P>Whatever course you decide upon,<BR>there is always someone to tell you<BR>that you are wrong.<P>There are always difficulties arising<BR>which tempt you to believe that your <BR>critics are right.<P>To map out a course of action <BR>and follow it to an end <BR>requires courage.<P><I>Ralph Waldo Emerson</I>

Hey guys,<P> Just when I thought it couldn't get any more twisted, I find out terri has something goin' with a rabbit!! Ohhh, the humanity!!!<P> God bless Peter Cottontail,<P>------------------<BR>Gregg

And what's this about batteries(sp?)?? Merciful Heavens, can it get any worse??<P><BR> (Please, e-mail me if it does!!!) <P>------------------<BR>Gregg

Who mentioned batteries? Did someone mention batteries? I know I didn't say a word about batteries!<P>BTW, my husband has been in another "state" for about 4 years, closer to 5! ... but for the last two months he has been living nearly 1200 miles away.<BR><P>------------------<BR>terri<BR><B>Courage</B><P>Whatever course you decide upon,<BR>there is always someone to tell you<BR>that you are wrong.<P>There are always difficulties arising<BR>which tempt you to believe that your <BR>critics are right.<P>To map out a course of action <BR>and follow it to an end <BR>requires courage.<P><I>Ralph Waldo Emerson</I>

Hey terri,<P> Sorry 'bout the Eveready battery thing.<P> "I like Dreaming", too!<P> God bless dreamin' about batteries, <P>------------------<BR>Gregg

Hey terri,<P><BR> Ever try Duracells??<P> <BR> God bless the coppertop,<P>------------------<BR>Gregg

gregg~ i swear you are a crack up. you just never know what to expect from you. thanks for my daily smiles!<P>mrs.job and everyone else~ we were intimitate on dday. i know we had a similar conversation elsewhere, but it was a very emotionally charged conversation. and since a lot of what led up to the affair was me withholding sex, i felt like that was the first thing to get back. like i could make it all better or something. i have never had the emotional problem with sex i.e. thinking of OW, etc. i guess because H let me ask all the questions i wanted to, i didn't really wonder. and because i remember what sex just for sex was, and how easy it was to be unemotionally attached from it and just do it.<P>happy_girl<BR>

I've been watching to see if anyone had the same experience that I did, and I haven't seen it yet. So here goes:<P>I not only had sex the day of discovery, I had sex with h throughout the remainder of the affair - approximately 2 1/2 to 3 months. Which is why oc and my second son were conceived within days (hours? minutes?) of each other.<P>Even when h was staying at ow's apartment, I would have sex with him when he came over to visit me/our son. I guess I figured that if h was doing me, he'd be too worn out to have sex with ow afterwards...once, we even did it on the hood of ow's car that he had borrowed. Then, when h was on his way back to ow's apartment, I would call ow and tell her "don't expect too much from him tonight, he's just screwed my brains out and is probably tired." Ow would be bawling by the time h got there and they would spend the rest of the night yelling and fighting. Then h would be so tired the next day at work that he'd screw things up and get in trouble and blame it on ow for keeping him up so late. So he would come over to my house to rest, I'd seduce him, and the cycle would start all over again.<P>Looking back, I can't believe that I wasn't more concerned about STD's (there weren't any, Thank the Lord!) and I also can't believe that I didn't have more "pride" than to have sex with h knowing full well that he was also having sex with ow. At the time, though, all I was concerned about was showing him what he had at home in hopes that he would miss it enough to call off the affair. It's not something that I would recommend to anybody else in this situation, but it seemed to work all right for me, especially when other guys started hearing that h left the marriage and started "sniffing" around my door. I think that when h started realizing that it was only a matter of time until I would get sick of his ow games and bestow my affections elsewhere, he decided that ow wasn't worth it at all.<P>When I actually went into a kind of plan b, it took only 3 days of no contact for h to decide that he wanted to be with just me. He called me and asked me if he could come home. I said yes, but only if he quit his job (where ow also worked). He said "come and pick me up - I'll have my tool box and everything ready." I picked him up at work and we went together to ow's apartment to collect the clothes he had there. Ow was out shopping at the time. I found out later that she stopped at work to pick h up as planned, waited 2 hours in the car for him to come out, finally went in and was told by h's boss, "He quit today and went home with his wife." Ow went home to find an empty apartment. Can't have been a nice day in her world.<P>That's my story. To this day, I still don't hardly let a day go by without sex with h. I guess for me it's kind of "preventative measures", haha. <BR>-cd

We had sex three days after DD of OW & OC on Nov.20,2000,<BR>My husband and I never had any sexual problems, the main problem in my marriage was the lack of communication and understanding each others feeling. We are working on this, since he finally came out of the fog, of OW & OC. I can't believe it has taken him 6 months to see how vindictive, manipulative OW is.

Lets see it was about 12 hours from when h told me and from there so much I couldnt count, only remember our parts were getting mighty sore. Our problems to were lack of cummmunication.<BR> Things went on like this for 6 months up until ow called and told me she had my h child. I cannot remember after that my world is a blurr for about 5 months after that call. After this phone call things were not the same at all the cheating was one thing the oc issue brought a totally diffrent bunch of he** into my world. After the call and I had learned who my h had really been with was when he told me about the ow STD he did tell me about that I didnt have to find out from her. After the fact that he had produced a child with something so nansty and risked giving me a STD things have not been the same since getting better but not the same. flowerseed

CD,<P>I didn't just want to leave your post hanging out there. I am sure that you are anxious for some kind of response.<P>Wow! I don't know if I could ever have been that strong. Knowing that he was sleeping with both of us at the same time. <P>Geeze! it just occurred to me that that is exactly what happened in my case except that I didn't know it was going on. In the beginning he told me that the affair occured during the time we were living bicoastal, but I later learned that in fact, the affair was 7 years long. What is wrong with me that I never thought before now that there might have been days when he had sex with both of us? AAAARRRRGGGGGGHHHHHH! YYYYUUUUUCCCCCCKKKKKY Gotta get that picture out of my head really quickly. I very, very seldom picture them in bed and have never even really pictured them kissing. I guess I am lucky that I am not tortured by such pictures.<P>I was frightened about STDs and even more so when I learned later that they had broken up a couple of times and she had gone out with other men. Except for when they were broken up, she didn't date or sleep with anyone else. It was almost like he had two marriages going on at once. However, neither of us has had an HIV or Hep-C test. <P>I always wondered about plan A if the affair was still going on. I thought that it was kind of saying that you don't deny your spouse sex even though you know that they are sleeping with someone else. That doesn't seem right to me. (I am not judging you here, and who knows what I might have done in your situation. Hey, I never thought I'd stay in a marriage where there had been infidelity and here I still am.) <P>I think if I had known of his A, I would have immediately stopped sleeping with him until he stopped sleeping with her. Hey your way worked and you did what worked for you, for the both of you. I might have blown any chance of reconciliation with a denial of sex.<P>Just rambling thoughts, not very coherent.<P>Mrs. Job

Hey Mrs. Job,<BR>I DID make him shower before we had sex...that makes it a little better, eh? <BR>-cd

Okay see, I thought I was the only one who did these things! My D-day, I also made love to my H. For about 3 hours, and afterward, he went on to tell me that the OW doesn't even know a scraping of what he gives to me. He never thought of her that way. I suppose I wanted to have my H all to myself and he just messed that dream up, but that day, in fact a couple of weeks before, God had been dealing with me so that I could handle his confession. And when I told the man that I still loved him, and forgave him, he kissed me and he held me and well, you know!

I was thinking the same thing Mrs Job I to was having sex at the same time he was with her just didnt know it. <BR> My h says he had blood test done after he found out about ow STD. I just wish I would have see the paperwork I just dont believe him. I think my biggest problem with this is he never took into consideration that its one thing to expose himself to desease but I didnt get that choice I should have been told so I could make that choice for myself. I made that point from the day he told me about cheating on me and it took him until I found out about oc to tell me. It still really pisses me off. Its all just so gross some days I wonder if I'll ever be alright.<BR> with love flowerseed

Hey Diz,<P><BR> You are my hero!! Does anything get to you??!!( I was going to make a joke about " The Icewoman Commeth!")<P> In retrospect, the day my wife slept with OM is the day she stopped sleeping with me. Back then, I thought it was me. I thought she didn't find me attractive anymore. Not once, not once did it ever enter my mind that she was sleeping with another man!!<P> I'm not sure if it was arrogance, denial, stupidity, or a combination of the three!<P><BR> God bless you,<P>------------------<BR>Gregg

Wow CD that was so gutsy! You've got big gonads, Lady! <P>XOW was also having ocassional sex with her H, who was living in another state and we ALL knew probably sleeping around there, so I am STILL so shocked and hurt that my H had sex with her repeatedly without condoms. Not only did he f**k around, but he risked his health, my health, and our unborn babies' health! Thank GOD we had no STDs!! I did make H go to Dr. when I couldn't clear up a yeast infection, which XOW also knew about, but H wasn't a carrier? It's just all soooooooooooo yucky, mostly because she pretended to be a friend, and I fell for it.

Lynton,<BR>Did you hear that c.d.has big gonads. I dont know if I spelled that right. with love flowerseed