Hi, ladies<P>I am still devastated and confuse, it has been 4 days since I caught h in ow house, he continues to tell me that he did not sleep with her or spend the night. He says he just went to see oc out of spite. I do not believe him, when ow still wants him. He knows how paiful and traumatic the first six months after DD. I couldn't sleep or eat, and I was very depressed. H knows that it took me 4 months just to tell him that I love him. I feel he just toss out the window what little progress we had made. It seems that all the bad feelings that I had when I discover the affair & oc, came back. H and I were suppose to be in counseling Tuesday morning, he didn't even made the attempt to come with me at least to discuss the problem.<P>I seem to start to obsess about this mess again. Everyday I keep asking h what did you and ow talk about while you were at her house. H tells me that they spoke about oc, h also told me that while he was at her apartment, he saw boxes all over the place, he ask her is she was moving , ow told him she was moving away, bud didn't want to say where.<BR>Today H slip, and told me Ow & Oc were moving to Florida in two months. Ow told h she can no longer leave in New York knowing that H is with me. I do not know what to believe from h anymore. Today I remember something that h told me yesterday, h and I had a argument regarding this mess. I told him how much he hurt me, and I also told him that is going to take time for me to get over this last betrayal, h told me not to worry, that if I want him to move he will, just to give him 1 month and 1/2 until he can settle everything. What did he meant by this, is he planning to move with ow & oc? I have not ask him yet what did he meant by this. Please need advice.<BR>

My goodness Mina...that has to be devastating to you and any progress you may have made. Once again to be betrayed..I must have missed your post about catching him there...Ill have to go look. It is so hard to keep up here sometimes.<P>Well let's just pray ow does move to Florida. But is that far enough away? I say send her to China or maybe the Bermuda Triangle <P>I wish I had some great advice to give you, but all I can say is to pray about it and definately bring it up in your next session. Do the 2 of you have a POJA about him going there? For him to give you more reason to mistrust than you already have is totally stupid and...and...well stupid. UGH. What does it take? I think I would offer to help her pack.<P>Love and Prayers<BR>bw

Wow Mina,<P>I went back and read your post. My gosh. I must concur with everyone else..the signs say he was with her. I do not know what I would do in your shoes, but I agree with you on talking to ow. Bad idea. No truth from either one of them there. then again, I did it and it was real hard on me and ow lied and told some truths...caused a lot of problems at home, but big "LB" on her part. Ultimately her little plan backfired and H cut ALL contact because he thought she deliberately tried to hurt me. (which I am sure she did).<P>Time for him to come clean and stop his childishness. Even if he did go over there when the bars closed..what time do they close there? Here it is 2am. What "dad" goes to see their child when they are drunk? And where was he in between when the bars closed adn her apartment.<P>I am so sorry you are having to deal with this. The cards are in your hand. <P>Love and many prayers<BR>bw

Dear broken wings, <P>I have not contact ow yet, I know she will try to hurt me. I do not believe what h says. The bars in New York close at 5:30am sometimes even at 7:00am in the morning. Today I will talk to h, he has to come clean. I do love him and I want to save this marriage. I will keep you post it.