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#801524 07/07/01 07:20 AM
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I know we do not know enough about her disappearance but I feel Cong. Condit is GUILTY.<P>Her aunt just came forward w/the news that her neice was seeing him. That she confided that she envisioned being married to him and having his children.<P>MM protect their families while they play. I feel that's the case here. The poor girl was the flavor of the month and got too serious. He did her in before it could come to light. I strongly feel it's the case here.<P>God help us all.<P>love<BR>Debi<P>------------------<BR>Imagine....

#801525 07/07/01 11:24 AM
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Hi Gem,<P>I thought it sounded fishy to me too.<BR>But you never know until all the facts are out in<BR>the open. In any case it is a sad story for Chandra's<BR>family and the congressman's family.<P>

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gemini,<BR>I don't know if he did her in, but he is certainly ACTING guilty... maybe out of guilt from serial adultery. I have often wondered how his wife is doing and if a person in the public eye (like she) could find any solice in an annonymous board like this...<P>

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Gem:<P>What's next? The 'slow speed chase'?<P>Shades of OJ...<P>Jenny:<P>Even a high profile person could find relief and solace here..and anonymity. Right now she must be devastated and in shock and denial, hoping and praying her husband didn't off his paramour, which would definitely ruin the rest of their family's lives. So awful.<P>I wonder if she knew about this OW before this became fodder for the evening news and tabloids...<P>Catnip =^^=

#801528 07/08/01 08:03 AM
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Maybe I read too much but this has Tom Capano written all over it.<BR>I also wonder how the wife is. I also think about Mrs. J. Jackson and wonder what's going on there.<P>Ohhhh......<P>love<BR>Debi<P>------------------<BR>Imagine....

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I think that when there is such a great disparity in the ages and in the power and status, a truly equal relationship is not possible. I think this congressman must be predatory. A powerful man in his 50's has a great psycyological advantage over a young girl in her 20's. I felt the same way about Clinton and Monica. I think if it had come out that Clinton was boffing Denise Rich, people might have been disgusted but not to the degree that they were about Monica. And, in both cases, they lead their lovers to believe there might be a "future." In the congressman's case, he actually was apparently having multiple affairs with none of them knowing about the other and all thinking they had a "future." This man has a daughter and so, of course, does Clinton. Doesn't it occur to them that they would not want some married old man having an affair with their own daughter, so perhaps they shouldn't do it? The agony that girl's parents must be suffering is incomprehensible. Perhaps the only good thing that will come of it is that it might help some other starstruck young girl to resist the tempation of an affair with an older married man.<P>Also, did anyone here think that perhaps Chandra might have been pregnant? Maybe that was the "big news" she had to share with her aunt? That would certainly be a motive for him to off her.<P>JAL

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JAL Yes I thought of that also. Pregnancy would really be a thorn in his plan.<BR>That may have been the case. Hey as soon as it came out they were seeing each other I figured it was the congressman. These guys in "power" often feel like an untouchable in the eyes of the law.<P>I am watching closely with great interest.<P>I feel so very sorry for his wife and children. I felt the same for Chelsea and Hillary and that was before my situation!<P>love<BR>Debi<P>------------------<BR>Imagine....

#801531 07/09/01 12:04 AM
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Why couldn't the wife have done it, if Chandra is dead?<BR>Crime of passion, etc..<BR>In Texas,I believe a law is still on the books if man walks in and finds wife in bed with another man and kills her he is innocent of murder. Very old law, I wonder if a wife could use this law as a defense?<BR>Just wondering....<BR>TG

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Texasgirl:<P>Hey! I wonder! I didn't think of that but it is entirely feasible. The rage we all have felt could have ended up very badly for some of us, especially me. I was so enraged and insane when I found out what was happening, I almost shot my husband...and had I known about the old laws in Texas when my husband was 'seeing' OW down there, well, I'm just glad now I didn't know of this at the time....<P>Scary.<P>Catnip =^^=

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Oh Catnip! You are too much.... [Linked Image from marriagebuilders.com]<P>Just an update on the story.....Police and fbi do not consider him a suspect. I read where he admitted they were more than friends but did not admit to a sexual friendship!<P>So my theory was wrong. That's what I get for reading too many true crime books!<P>love<BR>Debi<P>------------------<BR>Imagine....

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I am still very suspicious of him. Also, I believe that his W is in CA and is an invalid of some sort? He has now admitted during his third interview that they were involved in a sexual relationship for 2 years. Just because the FBI is saying he is not a suspect publically doesn't mean he's not.<P>JAL

#801535 07/10/01 08:34 AM
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I also heard his wife lives in CA with their children, but didn't hear her being an invalid. If so, he should be more ashamed. <P>I did hear on the news this morning about the possibility of Chandra being pregnant. The family lawyer said "[They] know the answer, but are not telling what the answer is" so it won't ruin the invesitgation. If it were my daughter and I knew for sure she wasn't pregnant, I'd yell and jump up and down saying "NO! She's not pregnant!" <P>Maybe she was paid off to leave, didn't think about it at first and is somewhere else too afraid to return now that her face and life is plastered all over the media. Maybe Conti did get rid of her. <P>I have a feeling we will never get an answer. <P>

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Quote from SF Chronicle:<BR>there is dissent in the ranks of the congressman's own staff, despite a public face of unity with their boss. "Everyone's absolutely furious," said one worker, who asked to remain anonymous. "He outright lied to us; we believed him. It makes us feel sick." <P>If his STAFF feels sick from the lies... wow imagine us beloved spouses, hunh?? It floors me. <BR>

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Yup Jenny....imagine......Hey guys the plot thickens.....<P>love<BR>Debi<P>------------------<BR>Imagine....

#801538 07/11/01 06:35 AM
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Yesterday on the news after he admitted he had something going on with this girl. Something was said about how this girl felt gilted, about made me puke wonder how she thinks his wife and family feels.<BR> When this whole thing first came out there were pictures on the news with her sitting at the table with his wife and him how do they live with themselves the h and the ow. with love flowerseed<BR>

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jenny:<BR><B>If his STAFF feels sick from the lies... wow imagine us beloved spouses, hunh?? It floors me. </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P><BR>Jenny, <P>What a great point. I remember the Clinton fiasco as well and people saying "HE lied to ME!" as if that was a crime worse than him lying to his wife simply because they were in the political arena. I also was floored when people would say about Clinton "Well, sure he lied. He didn't want to get caught" as if this was a perfectly good excuse to lie and it made everything okay. <P>Condit isn't the first Congressman he is doing this (or has done this) and he won't be the last either. Unfortunately, all it really means is there will be more families in turmoil and pain because of terribly bad decisions. That's really sad. <P>Love,<BR>CoR <BR>

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It's been a while, but I must put my 2 cents in...<BR>As sensational as the whole drama may be, it shouldn't surprise any of us. I don't know about the rest of you, but my mom always said...'If you'll lie, you'll steal, if you'll steal, you'll kill'. It rings true to this day. All three offenses have the same agenda as a basis....NO ONE ELSE MATTERS, IT'S ALL ABOUT ME!!!!!<BR>BOTH parties in this situation lied, and BOTH parties in this drama stole what didn't belong to them, physical and emotional intimacy. Only one of them took it to the final, ultimate level of selfishiness and lacking regard for the feelings (and life for that matter) of others..<P>It is probably true that he preyed on her immaturity, but she chose to place herself above his wife. Even if he didn't have sense and integrity enough to regard the vows, she should have. I recall reading somewhere where she commented that his wife was 'not an issue'.!?!?<P>Both of them cheated their families out of enjoying the relationships that should have been cherised; Condit as husband and father, and Levy as daughter to devoted and loving parents and perhaps a future wife of a worthy man.<P>

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That is a good point about the lying and one I wouldn't have thought of, coming from the other side. I will remember that. People who are devoted to a politician have a deep sense of committment but of course it doesn't even touch that of family members and spouses. As to Chandra sitting there with the family, I would say that we don't know what he told her. Again I have to think that he is probably much more manipulative and predatory than her because of the difference in age, power and sophistication. He might have told her that his marriage was empty, he was trapped, they never have sex, etc. Not that she should have believed it but people sometimes believe what they want to believe, and manipulative people have a 6th sense when it comes to tapping into people's umet needs to get what they want. Many of you have experienced this from the other side with OW's tapping into your H's unmet needs. It often happens from the other direction, too, and I would suspect that in this case. That is really interesting about the "pregnant" comment. I hadn't heard that but I did read today that the FBI has now requested a DNA test and a search of his apt.<P>I saw a picture of his wife and she looked lovely, very beautiful. Do you think it makes any difference if the spouse has agreed to the infidelities by staying over many years of them? I felt horribly sorry for Chelsea and very angry at Clinton for the hell he put her through but much less sorry for Hillary because she has known all along. She even was kept up-to-date on the "bimbo eruptions" (her term) during the elections to make sure and deal with any stories about the many women Clinton had affairs with. If someone chooses to remain in a marriage for years and years of infidelities, it is much harder to see them as a victim in my mind.<P>JAL

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I have said this before and will probably get more flack for saying it again, but I really could care less whether that home wrecker Chandra is alive or not. She got what she deserved as far as I'm concerned. Why should anyone feel sorry for a woman who knowingly has an affair with a married man with children? <P>You play with fire, you get burned. Don't get me wrong, I think Condit should go down in flames as well.<P>Everytime I see Chandras parents crying on TV, I wish I could scream at them and tell them they raised a bimbo with no morals. <P> Cry me a river, pleeeaaaaaseeee.

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EnglandFrance,<BR>Puhleeze!!! You can't really mean that. Chandra's parents are not to blame here.<BR>I was 24 yrs old a long time ago.<BR>I can see wishing away another man's family in my youth but not now.<BR>I don't mean because of what has happened to me....just that in your 20's you believe anything. It's a Cinderella age...or rather an age where you still believe in fairy tales.<P>God help Condit who at 53 yrs old should have KNOWN better!!!!<P>Bless his lovely wife too.<P>As far as Hillary knowing about the bimbos....maybe they had a poja and Bill broke it!! Remember the right wing conspiracy? Maybe Hillary really believed it!!! Bless her too. May she do well in NY politics.<P>Been there felt that......<P>love<BR>Debi<P>------------------<BR>Imagine....

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