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#801787 07/15/01 12:00 AM
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I am sorry that you are hurting. We, parents, hurt for our children, be they, biological, or adopted. <P>Feeling as you do, anti-abortion, father's neglect, bitterness of raising an OC by yourself, why not give the OC a life of two loving parents? My point is, please quit pissing, and moaning about your decisions in life. ember

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OMG? I came here to understand, not piss and moan. I was under the impression that this is a Christian-oriented site? Some questions were directed toward me as well as other accusations that I merely tried to answer. It seems like no matter what I say here I am being misunderstood.<P>Why all the attacks? That's about the only thing that is hurting right now? Sheesh! No, I did not give my child up for adoption, yes, he IS loved and wanted by ME and by my husband.

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BtDt, instead of being "misunderstood", please clarify your situation. ember

#801790 07/15/01 02:41 PM
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To clarify something about ME. When I write in THIRD person, so as to include MYSELF, please understand that I am speaking to MYSELF FIRST, then to others.<P>I say WE not YOU. I said WE to Scarlet Pumpernickle, NOT YOU AND YOUR WIFE. To me, WE means ME FIRST and anyone else it may apply to. If anything said in these forums doesn't apply to your specific situation, then it should just fly out the window, IMHO. I'm not pointing the finger at anyone and if I did, there would be 3 pointing back at me.<P>Please understand all of you, if I appeared to judge anyone, I judged myself. I judge myself but I don't beat up on myself. Why should I when people, even Christians, are sooo pleased to do it for me? OH, and I'm not pissing and moaning about that either, it's just the way life is.<P>But I'm tough. God has made me and all of His kids that way. I'm sure those of you who are Christians have read it before in Isaiah 41:10 where He promises, "Fear thou not; for I am with thee: be not dismayed; for I am thy God: I will strengthen thee; yea, I will help thee; yea, I will uphold thee with the right hand of my righteousness."

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BINthereDUNthat, I did not intend to come off judgemental. My apologies.<P>I am a Christian, but I would feel better if you could leave bible quoting out of the posts. I am sure everyone that posts' here is not a Christian. I might be a liberal, a democrat, a republican, etc. This not belong on this post either. Please leave religion, and politics out of the discussions. Thank-you, ember

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Dear ember,<BR>Okay. I'll respectfully consider your request. And, just so that you realize what you are asking of me--Christian to Christian... You are asking me to set my relationship with God on the shelf and try to offer HIS people encouragement apart from Him.<P>You are asking me to have confidence in my human experience rather than to place more confidence in the thing that helped me to keep my sanity throughout my human experience.<P>You specifically requested elucidation, which was provided after you clearly established that my input was offensive. Now you are telling me that quoting the bible is offensive? *sigh* I am more befuddled than ever!


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