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#805861 11/16/01 12:12 PM
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I just found out exOW doesn't have custody of her other three kids! H CS order is based on the fact that they both have to support three children. exOW is actually paying CS for her other kids. This morning I called the 800 hotline for our CS bureau to find out how much arrearage my H owes. (only $35 [img]images/icons/grin.gif" border="0[/img] ) Anyway they have a new system all you have to do is put your SS # in you don't need a pin code. So I put exOW SS# in (bad I know but I wanted to find out what the other fathers were paying her CS) Only to have them say we have you listed as a Custodial and Non-Custodial parent. The only child she has custody of is OC. She pays her mother CS for the other three children. I know for a fact that H CS is based on the fact she supposedly had three other children living with her. I'm pissed because they should have looked up the information in their PC. She used the same CS Bureau through the State to get CS from H that's taking money weekly from her. I want to know, if or once this is proven will they make her pay H any extra CS that he has paid? I can't believe she could get away with crap like this. The funny thing is that I'm not flipping out the way I used to. I still feel great that I won't allow her to control my actions. I can't believe someone would actually let their children be taken from them. One of her ex friends told me, she didn't have custody of her other three kids a long time ago, so H and I were aware of the rumor but to have it verified was shocking. I've seen her with all her children once at the supermarket I jus tassumed they lived with her. After I told H what I found out he just had a look of disgust on his face. And I will not be asking him if he want's to try and get custody of OC! From what my cousin whose exOW neighbor tells me OC stays at her mother's house anyway. Which is in a nice area a few blocks from my house. Wish us luck with finding out the truth if any of you have any suggestions please share any advice you have.<p>
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Unsure,<p>How frustrating, for lack of a better expression!!!! I would look into what your rights are for getting the CS taken care of. When you said that it was determined on the fact of her also supporting 3 other children, did that mean that it is higher or lower. If it is lower, then leave it be, if it is higher, I would look into what your rights on the matter are. Also, PRAY! <p>Love,<p>Tigger

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Tigger,<p>My H pays more CS to her because she was supposedly the custodial guardian of her other three children. No wonder she said the other fathers were not paying her CS. She's paying the CS for her kids. That's sad and you're right this is very frustrating. The only thing that has gotten me through this entire situation is prayer. It seems like all exOW have the law working for them. And that's not fair, our society is so concerned about deadbeat fathers, that we let women who are trying to make an extra buck slip through the system. Thank you for your support. I hope things are working out well for Sailorman and his Uncle.<p>Unsure

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Unsure, <p>Why would he have to pay her more money based on her other children that are not his? That makes no sense, which of course, many laws do not!<p>Am I understanding correctly?

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I'm going to start all over I was in a rush earlier. In my state the amount of CS you pay is determined by how many other children you have to support. My H has three children by me, exOW has 3 children plus OC so a total of 4 children. The fact that my H already had three children lowered his CS obligation to OC. exOW said she was the custodial parent to her other three children too. So she was given a credit for those children which upped H share of CS and CC owed for OC. I know in some states it doesn't matter how many kids you have if someone files for CS they take an automatic percentage of H pay. In my state it's not like that thank god! They make sure all exsiting kids are taken care of in the manner that they are acustomed too. I hope this makes sense. exOW received a larger percentage of my H check becasue she filed her kids as dependents and she doesn't have custody of them so she can't. Enough rambling I hope I explained the situation.<p>Unsure

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I understand now. I live in Wi, so it's based upon your income.<p>I really don't have any advice...sorry! I would say talk to your lawyer right away!<p>Good luck!

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Tin,<p>I live in CT. H and I are talking to a lawyer to get this straightened out I hope to meet with one early next week. Thanks for your support.<p>Unsure

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Unsure, <p>I hope you have better luck with the friend of the court then I have. I got off the phone with them today and had to just shake my head and say I don&#8217;t get it. <p>They have took all our refunds this year the amount totals 1,400.00. h owes 700.00 in back support. They wont apply two of the checks until they hold them for six months because this is what she said I didn&#8217;t sign an injured spouse form. The one check they did take and apply was because I did sign this form but they still applied it all to child support. I didn&#8217;t receive a dime.<p>So from my understanding is if I sign this form then they give ow my money right away if I don&#8217;t then they hold it for six months then give it all to her. Now that sounds fair don&#8217;t it? That makes me want to run right out and sign one tomorrow NOT. I also asked her about the extra money that they will have when they do apply it. She said my h would have to come in and sign something to get it. That this is nothing to do with me. Every time I talk to them I get told this so I&#8217;m expecting it now [img]images/icons/tongue.gif" border="0[/img] . If only I could bi*** slap someone through the phone. I told her it most certainly is to do with me since your taking my money. Her reply you didnt sign the form. <p>
She also had the nerve to say I will have this problem every year with taxes. I found that odd since as of today my h is $700.00 paid ahead. I just had to laugh and say to myself I don&#8217;t think so I already took care of that from here on out. My h has no income in his name anymore not a dime its all mine. Little did this little woman know that I send the money to them from now on so it is all to do with me.<p>I do have to say I now can get off the phone and shake my head and laugh and blame it on the messed up child support system we have instead of wanting to beat my h up. Come the end of Dec there will be more fun having to get through their heads since there is no more back support owed they have to drop that off the amount they charge. It took six months to get them to stop taking the money for the dna test that were already paid for and giving it to the ow. Let us know what happens.<p> With love flowerseed

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I keep hearing about "injured spouse form" what is that? I am curious as to what it is...
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Twisty,<p>When your h owes back child support the foc (friend of the court) sends something to the IRS saying you owe such amount if its not paid by a certain time they intercept your income tax refunds. The injured spouse form was what the state sent when they said they were holding our refund because of support owed. We filed joint last yr big mistake. I didn&#8217;t fill one out for our fed return I thought the one I filled out covered both. I wasn&#8217;t to worried about it I figured it would catch it up if they did take it. I got quit upset when they also took our rebate when the money that was already taken would have more then covered the arreages.

Anyhow from what I can see all it is for is so they can release your money right away and apply it to child support instead of holding it 6 months. I also don&#8217;t like the idea that now the foc has my social security number that&#8217;s none of their business.<p>Also the money they are holding wont be released for child support until Jan 1 and Dec 31 they add interest onto the amount owed. Quit the money grubbing scam I would say. With love flowerseed

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by flowerseed:
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If only I could bi*** slap someone through the phone. <p>Flowerseed,<p>LOL! [img]images/icons/grin.gif" border="0[/img] I felt that way today. H took a day off from work to try and get the CS modifcation straightened out. (Because of his line of work he can't do it on the job) The first lady he talked to was a B----. I don't swear but that the only way to describe her. She had an huge attitude and told my H she couldn't help him. She's suppose to be his contact per CS corporate office. I was so pissed you have all these dead beat fathers who don't support their kids my H has been paying CS since OC was three months old. Anyway, we call the CS coporate office only to find out exOW put the baby on welfare that's why the modifacation went through. She went back to work so they dropped the modifaction case. H gave his current income which is $8 more an hour and they dropped the case so we decided to leave well enough alone and not ask for a modifacation. We figured he still might have to pay more money even though she's working I don't think she make a lot of money. Thanks for the information and the support! Since H back support is down to $35 it will be paid off this week, I'm so glad I don't have to worry about them messing with my income tax money.<p>Unsure

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by tinlizzy:
<strong>Unsure, <p>Why would he have to pay her more money based on her other children that are not his? That makes no sense, which of course, many laws do not!<p>Am I understanding correctly?</strong><hr></blockquote><p>I happen to know the answer to this question. If a person is receiving CS for more than one child, the scheduled formula which dictates the payment for the second child is lowered and so on and so on. <p>Altho, I have no idea what they base it on. I just happen to know because one of my XH's OW has 3 OCs she is collecting CS for, which makes my XH's payments lower ... Go Figure [img]images/icons/confused.gif" border="0[/img] <p>Jo

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unsure,
I don&#8217;t usually have any problem with people something about the friend of the court case worker's attitudes just burns me.
My h has never missed a payment either, the back support he owed was from the date ow filed until the dna came back and he went to court.
There has been a few times I have felt like telling these people. Oh by the way what do you think every married couple tucks away a few grand just in case their h do something stupid and some slut wants to get paid for it for 18 yrs.

Unfortunately the way they treat us the foc would think that&#8217;s a great idea and want to right it into law.
With love flowerseed

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flowerseed,<p>You have a way with words! Gotta love that you put a smile on my face [img]images/icons/grin.gif" border="0[/img] <p>Unsure,<p>All I can say is...I pray that you prove what this "woman" is doing and how she is using kids to get more money. People like that just make me sick!

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Flowerseed,<p>I agree with you the FOC make it seems like I'm bugging them. Hello! this is a messed up situation I just want to make sure my kids don't get screwed. <p>Jules, Unforunately my H is making a lot more money and compared to what he's paying for CS which is a little less than a $100 a week we are coming off like bandits so I have to let this go. The only good thing is H additonal income has been reported and they decided to drop the case themselves. Which saves us some money. I know this is scary looking at all the stuff we are going through and wondering if it's your H child. I pray and hope it's not your H child, if it is you can get through this if you want to. Remember it's your decsion no one can make it for you. My entire family tried to make me decide to be with my H and it was hard. I wanted them to support my decsion to divorce him. Anyway , I'm glad things worked out for the best. Good Luck and I'll keep you in my prayers.<p>Unsure<p>P.S. Thanks for the support


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