What do you think of THIS?
<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Who IS the Father of Liz Hurley's Baby?<p>By Cathryn Conroy, CompuServe News Editor
Fact: British actress and former Estee Lauder faceperson Liz Hurley is pregnant and due to give birth in April. She says the father is American millionaire film producer Stephen Bing. He says (through his publicist) he's not so sure about that. "Ms. Hurley and I were not in an exclusive relationship when she became pregnant. If indeed I am the father, I will be an extremely involved and responsible parent." She says (through her film company, which she owns with former boyfriend Hugh Grant), "I'm deeply distraught by Stephen Bing publicly declaring that he hadn't been in an 'exclusive relationship' with me. This is the first I had heard of this, and the implications are very painful, especially as I am shortly to give birth to his child." He says (through his publicist). "It is her choice to be a single mother." The Daily Mail, a London tabloid, reported that Bing was seeing Brenda Swanson while he was still involved with Hurley.<hr></blockquote><p>Guess it happens to everyone huh? Only these two aren't married to another.
After what he said I'll be surprised if she goes after paternity.<p>Just what do these women think?<p>Going out, having sex = parenthood???? UGH!!!<p>love
Debi

Several years ago there was the big lesbian-chic thing. These days there is a VERY definate singlemother-chic thing happening.<p>Through adoption, child birth, and various other methods single professional women are becoming mothers in droves! (most espically those in the 33-39 age group).<p>My son was born the the middle of a singlemotherhood baby boom. Who'd-a-thunk.<p>Oh, and this guy is OBVIUOSLY a jerk!

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Through adoption, child birth, and various other methods single professional women are becoming mothers in droves! (most espically those in the 33-39 age group).<hr></blockquote><p>
UMMMMMMM Katie, childbirth would be the only way a woman could become a single mom.<p>Why don't you go somewhere that would be appreciative of your obvious ow comments? Perhaps they will be willing to listen to "not thought out" answers.<p>Personally I'm tired of you.<p>So now you go away.<p>Shoo!!!!!!

Right on Gemini,<p>Why would Liz Hurley keep this [censored] child? Because she wants to be a mommy? Because it's chic? Or maybe it's the adjective "millionaire" that has her all lathered up? (even a famous actress will breed for greed) Whatever the case, she has recourse...must be nice to have choices.

I am an xOW and I have posted my story already for anyone that wants to know. I am so distrubed by this thread and by the contents of it. I don't understand the hostility towards Elizabeth Hurley here. Why are you guys calling her names. I know that everyone here is sensitive because of the situation they are in but why attack this woman. This man was not married they where in a relationship. She said she thought she was in an exclusive relationship with this man, but he is claiming something else. Why jump on her and believe him. He was the one that was seeing more than one person.
Many of you here have had children from previous relationships to your marriage so do you think any less of those children because they are not of your marriage. As women we have fought tooth and nail to have our right to choose, but know we are condeming (sp?) women for choosing. So just because the man that you thought we were together with tells you AFTER you are pregnant then you have to give up your child. Many of you will say well what about adoption, why should I have to give up my child because the man changed his mind.
My point of this post is don't condem(sp?) every woman because of the situation you are in. You have to be objective, there are many me out there getting women pregnant and then like to point the figure.

Questioning why does this thread make you sad?<p>It's not you personally this is about.<p>It is morality here that's the issue.<p>When two people have sex it's usually NOT to have a child, especially in immoral situations. A man and woman engaging in sex doesn't mean PARENTHOOD is a thought in the mans head. In fact PARENTHOOD w/o his consent is why you ow are in the horrible situation you are in to begin with. Man's first instinct is to flee. Only wanted to party, not get caught in such a life altering way.<p>We planned for our child. Had I gone ahead and went off the pill or something just to "keep" H it would never have worked. It would have created resentment in the marriage. Having a baby never cements a relationship. It's a most stressful time in a marriage.<p>Not being honest about birth control is abhorrent behaviour. Maybe Liz and the rest of the women in single motherhood should have been honest. Ninety percent of ow's here lied about bc.<p>Then they expect a man to be involved out of pity w/C. Or maybe out of guilt. Whatever it is,it's not worth losing your entire family and extended family over. That's what would have happened here.<p>God will oversee all of his babies. HE will allow what is to happen. Do you honestly THINK if our H's wanted to be w/C we could stop them? NO!!! You've read it here before. They just have been placed in the most awful humiliating situation possible because of a womans right to choose.<p>If ow choose BABY then let go of the guy who wants nothing further to do w/you.<p>Ow in our case saw time running out and did what she could to lasso the guy....didn't work. Won't either if H is remorseful and W wants nothing to do w/c that isn't of their blessed union. H will go with marriage vows and leave it up to God. Of course then ow come after huge Pay-back Payments for 18 years out of spite. No she didn't conceive alone, but was any man here asked??????<p>I sincerely doubt it.

Was Elizabeth Hurley ow or something. I don't get why this is pissing everyone off? Anyway, Isn't Jodie Foster a single mother? Also, Rosie O'Donnell..

Jodi Foster - single mother of 2
Rosie O'Donnell - single mother of 3
Calistia Flockhart - single mother of 1
Cameron Manheim - single mother of 1
Melissa Ethridge - single mother of 2
Lauryn Hill - single mother of 2
Madonna - former single mother of 1
and on and on and on

Gem,<p>You are really taking this situation personally. Hurley is not a ow for one thing and how do you know that she was lying about bc. who said she was. In my case we did not use bc by choice and we decided to keep the baby. <p>Just because one woman hurt and did a wrong to you, you should not take it out on all women. Men lie and they lie there asses off. They lie to you they lie to ow.<p>xmm in my situation is still pursuing me and will not leave me alone, but tells his family that it is me. I am the one that changed my number to get away from him.<p>You really have to look at each situation by itself and not to put your situation to play. This man (Bing) should not be looked at as a good person that is being trapped by Hurley and Hurley as the evil woman that trapped him to get money. She has money of her own.

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>It is morality here that's the issue.<p>When two people have sex it's usually NOT to have a child<hr></blockquote><p>Get it Questioning? MORALITY!!!<p>I know EH isn't an ow. I am saying did she ask Bing if they should start a family? I do not think so.<p>She wasn't even engaged!<p> <blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>
Jodi Foster - single mother of 2
Rosie O'Donnell - single mother of 3
Calistia Flockhart - single mother of 1
Cameron Manheim - single mother of 1
Melissa Ethridge - single mother of 2
Lauryn Hill - single mother of 2
Madonna - former single mother of 1
and on and on and on <hr></blockquote><p>
ok let's see.....non of the above mom's hurt anyone else or used a MM for a child, affecting his family and himself forever.<p>Don't you guys get it?<p>I'm talking involving a man who was never asked for fatherhood. Just DECIDING on your own to make him a father.<p>The afore mentioned women didn't do that.<p>Also in liz's case...I was wondering why she was so surprised when the relationship wasn't exclusive. I mean what I said. The morality of these women gets to me because I would never do that to anyone...most importantly a new life.<p>Therefore it is closly related to morality of our still married ow....<p>SHEESE!

Hi Gem,<p>okay. I agree. [img]images/icons/smile.gif" border="0[/img] <p>I think Bing and EH are both at fault...what should she do now? It's really after the fact...oh what a tangled web we weave..Hey did you know that Catherine Zeta-Jones was ow. She got pregnant by Michael D. while he was still married..or should I say he got her pregnant, however you want to look at it..either way..shame on them..I too cannot picture doing that to someone. Yikes.

I am a BS as well after my H got an OW pregnant with OC. My H and I get into heated arguments over this same issue, so it strikes a nerve. <p>Some of us are still so hurt by the event that we are losing sight of reality. I'm upset at what my h did more than the ow. It is expected of me to love my husband, forgive all, and hate the b****. Well, I don't think too highly of her considering you knew about me, but I hold my h more accountable to me. I made vows with him, not her. He promised to love honor and cherish me til death do us part, not her. I made 3 kids with him, not her. So she can go on with her life in peace. My h says how unfair it is that although he begged her to have an abortion, she refused, but he still has to deal with the consequences and that's not right. Hello! You make the decision to lie down with her, you make the decision to accept the consequences. Last time I checked, you can't get a woman pregnant by looking at her.<p>I have 2 boys aged 7 and 5, and as soon as they can understand, I will tell them to wear a condom with everyone. Assume she'll get pregnant even if she says she's on the pill. Then you'll be sure. Think about it too. The men we loved put our lives and health in danger when they had unprotected sex. If an OC is all we have to worry about and not AIDS, we should consider ourselves lucky!

I agree! You are right. I still wouldn't call us lucky though, but okay, I would rather have an oc than aids..since you put it that way<p>sometimes my situation is surreal to me..I don't know if I'll ever really forgive my husband 100%, it's just so hard...I know all that, unharden your heart, forgive as the lord has forgiven. I wish I could be more merciful,but im just human.

Sorry gals I'd prefer NEITHER aids nor C.<p>That's just me.<p>In this day and age of birth control, there is no excuse for what happened it's true.<p>I just can't believe the immorality of it all. As a woman I would never do it w/another man who wasn't my husband. If my marriage was in trouble I'd do all I could to make it better. During A I tried in vain to make things better.<p>As for H you are totally right. He never should have bed another. He knows that now.<p>God has forgiven him. He repents the works of the devil. I equate ow actions on keeping a life and subjecting it to the things she has to works of the devil.<p>She's MARRIED yet ruthlessly chases my H at every opportunity. H doesn't want C or her now after we tried to make the best of a bad situation. She didn't want me around for fear I would harm the baby...<p>Oh well.....
Nuff said. I'm sick of making my point.

Actually, abstinence is the only answer, right? My ws used a condom and a child was still conceived. Heck, the pill isn't even 100%! So, telling our sons to use condoms doesn't sound too good to me!!! <p>I know what you mean about this being surreal. I haven't been able to tell my ws that I forgive him. I don't know that I ever can. I just thought about it the other night and it sounded like I heard it for the first time. *My husband has a child with someone else.* I just can't believe it and it makes me sick.

Gem,<p>WELL PUT!! <p>Julia [img]images/icons/smile.gif" border="0[/img]

@ tinlizzy: I said that's what I will tell MY sons. And it's a best idea for me.<p>I had to forgive my h or else I would never be able to move fwd. Even if we ended or relationship, forgiveness was important for me. That doesn't mean all is forgotten or that pain doesn't still exist, but there is nothing more my h can do. Even if he gave me the world, it will NEVER erase the past. ( I tell myself this everyday.)<p>I also find it ironic that my stepdaughter's mother (OW) refuses to let me be around her too. I thought I was the only one in that situation.

I can't get over the fact that in our case, (a three-night stand) we get to pay for the priviledge of being a sperm donor. Most men who donate sperm do so anonymously and women pay to conceive with their sperm (hence the tres chic thing with all those actresses that was listed earlier.)<p>Of course, our situation is different I suppose...but man oh man, paying for the priveledge of being a sperm donor for 18 years...I told H he should have donated to a lab anonymously.<p>My H learned a valuable lesson about assuming that anyone is on the pill. He learned some hard lessons about stepping out of a marriage even for a brief moment. The consequences are hard for all people involved.<p>I will be praying for y'all.
Hugs,
Twiisty

I *do* agree with you! I will definitely tell my sons about condoms to try to protect against pregnancy and STD's. (I didn't mean to sound offensive in my earlier post, I didn't mean to come across that way!) It just ticks me off that ws actually used something and the dang thing came off!!!!<p>Forgiveness is important to me. I guess sometimes it feels that if I say it to him, he will think that his actions were ok. That might not be true, but it feels that way sometimes. <p>Have a great day.

It's ok, tinlizzy. No offense taken. I wish there was a handbook on the right way to handle these situations. <p>He used a condom and she still got pregnant? Wow! God definitely has a purpose in all this.