hello, and welcome to mb,<BR>I would venture to guess that many ows are quite troubled people. They have a lot of personal issues that need attention, and while your h may want to take credit, seems that she had troubles before he appeared on the scene.<BR>It is pretty clear form your post that you realize that you cannot change another person. But how to get him to see that? You said he talks to you but does not listen to your responses? Are you sure? Maybe he does not act on them as soon as you would like, but I would bet he is listening and retaining some of it. I would keep trying to reach him in some way...maybe a new apporach? Maybe something lighter, like an outing, dinner, a hike? Maybe the serious talks are what he has with her and he needs something refreshing to make the lightbulb go on?<BR>Ideas to stay strong? I vote for exercise as the number one. It makes one feel invigorated and does great other little things like tone the bod, work the heart, reduce stress! It keeps the mind spirit and body together and functioning as a unit. I also had great success staying strong by reading and trying to understand new philosophies in life. Use the time for self growth! It is amazing to feel the healing powers that you have inside.<BR>Lastly, the gripes are best kept away from h if he is too stressed! No I did not say to coddle him because I do not beleive in that. Just use your judgement when to raise issues and when it would be best left unsaid! Afterall, we have quite the gripe groups on here some nights since there are many of us that save the crap and let it out here!<BR>I am not familar with your story, so please correct as needed!!