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okay I posted the other day and haven't really had much response. Just new to this whole thing with OC--H & I wer split for 5 months or so--he came back we attending MC & were doing well--then he says OW is going to have OC and we decided to stay together and now after about a month of dealing with this on our own--stopped MC--shouldn't have--he thinks it is too big of and issue and ssems to think that leaving is easier--he seems all sorts of confused. So what do you all think??? He says he is moving out and I don't think he should until we resume some MC and see if we can get through this--we were doing very well until he told me OW was going to have OC--which he told me after coming back to myself and our 2 year old son and doing counseling--and he did know OW was going to have OC when he came back--just hadn't told me.

Begging for thoughts and help. Can it ever work?? He states if it wasn't this then it would just be some other problem.

Albany <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Teary]" title="" src="graemlins/teary.gif" />

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Hi Albany

I'm sorry if you haven't received many responses! I'm so sorry, Albany. I haven't been around much this week as I was finishing up school and just posted intermittently these past couple weeks.

Can a marriage survive this nightmare? Yeah...that's the GOOD news. Your marriage can and will not only survive, but it can thrive. But in order to get to the beginning of this recovery/rebuilding process, certain things have to occur first to lay the foundation.

The first thing that has to happen is that your husband must completely cease all forms of contact/communication with the OW under any circumstance. If she needs to contact your husband for any reason AFTER the child's birth (providing the DNA results came back positive), she can call and communicate through his attorney. Otherwise, there is no reason whatever for them to speak to each other. Ever.

The reason for this is to give you and your husband time over the next few months until the birth to concentrate and focus on each other, gain strength and learn everything you need to know on how to meet each others' emotional needs, examine where the marriage went wrong and begin to rebuild the marriage by using the MB tools.

Learn the concepts, principles and policies beginning with Plan A and Plan B, the Rules of Protection and Radical Honesty, Policy of Joint Agreement (POJA) (where neither of you makes any decision without the enthusiastic agreement of the other) and post here often.

Another thing that is remarkably successful (85-90% success rate) is a Retrouvaille Weekend (see www.retrouvaille.org ) to give your marriage a jump start. The only requirement to attend Retrouvaille is that neither of the people in the couple are actively using alcohol or drugs or engaged in an affair of any kind.

Retrouvaille is very MB friendly as it promotes the rebuilding of marriage and has the same kind of policies so they are very simpatico and seem to compliment MB nicely.

If your husband is reluctant to sever contact with the OW, then you have to make some hard decisions, declare (and stick to) some boundaries, and launch into Plan A for a while to see if you can break through his foggy state and bring clarity...that all important "moment of clarity". If you go into Plan A, do it as long as you can stand it before going into Plan B because Plan B is risky, although often very effective.

What you are going through right now is probably the worst possible thing that can ever happen in a marriage and your emotions are raw. The stages you are facing are very intense and will come and go in a weird succession; vascillating between shock, denial, grief, rage and then acceptance. And not necessarily in that order or one at a time.

Now is a good time to find a counselor, too. Steve Harley is probably the best around and he does telephone counseling. If your husband would agree to a couple telephone sessions with Dr. Harley, this is another way of jump starting your recovery as Harley is able to identify problems and solutions and break through hard cases almost immediately. He is very effective and experienced in this field.

Why don't you tell us more about yourself and your story to give us a better idea of where you've been and how things got to this point.

I hate to "welcome" you here but I do want you to know that you have come to the right place.

Catnip =^^=

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albany,
You have received quality suggestions, I think if you pay attention to what is said instead of the number of replies.

Sometimes people don't add to it because of not knowing the Harley principles. Many times, people respond out of emotions instead of actually offering what is quality Marriage Builders advice.

If you read some of the articles on Plan A, Plan B, the basic principles, I'm sure you will find the answers you seek.

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albany, catnip told you good stuff. The good news is a marriage can DEFINATELY survive this and succeed (just see recent post asking for success stories!!).

You're on the right track... but it sounds like you may have to plan A to get him to work on the marriage. (I can't give advice on that, since my H was willing to work on the m.). I totally agree with staying together, continuing counseling, reading all the MB principles, recovery books, etc. This is do-able! It sure helps with BOTH partners work on it, but I've heard it's POSSIBLE to get a turn-around sometimes even with just one. Call the Harleys for phone counseling if necessary--I hear their great.

Welcome to the board and keep posting.
J, 5y recovery and glad <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

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I have been married 42 years when H got involved with OW for 6 months. It ended when I showed up at the golf course where several employees were golfing. I displayed my temper and he knew he better end it or they would get caught. No one will ever know what it is like unless they experience it and God I wouldn't want that for anyone. We are attempting to save our marriage he is very remorseful and doing everything he can to help me heal. I am really having a problem getting rid of the images. I think I ask too much and he answered too many intimate questions. We are scheduled for the Rout. weekend for couples on Valentines Day. Please pray for me because last year he gave her a heart necklace and me nothing...pretty rotten heh? Will be an anniversary and those dates are hard to handle. Putting a lot of hope in that weekend for our marriage! Good advise Catnip.
I would like to know how I find out more about Plan A and B, I am new to posting.

Thanks for the help.

EJA


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