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#836483 10/26/04 08:43 AM
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I had my wife look up some of your past post. We know that you are moving on which is the best thing for you to do. But we are concerned. Please let me explain.

This crazy OW has us worried. How close are you with her previous victim? The reason we ask is because this OW sounds like she has something called Munchausen By Proxy. This is a sickness where a person makes another sick just to get attention.

Is this OW capable of hurting her children just to get attention? If she is,she just may take it to far and kill one of her own children. If you have a relationship with the previos victim please advise him of this and maybe he needs to get his child out of there ASAP. I don't want to see a post from you later down the road saying that this crazy woman has killed one of her children.

Keep us all updates on how you and H are doing during your recovery !!!

#836484 10/26/04 02:25 PM
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The previous victim's wife (PVW) actually told me about this "disorder". Since she knows the OW quite well, she told me some of the things that she had did. Of course, since neither one of us are licensed psychologists, we can only speculate.

Let's see, according to PVW, the OW never cleaned the house or went food shopping. The children were always dirty, and hardly ever took a bath before bedtime. She does keep them out of school alot. Why? Who knows? Her oldest child (17) is very agressive and hard to handle. The younger 3 tend to get lost in the shuffle. The PVW also told me that the OW would make anonymous calls to DCSF on herself, and then pretend to be the concerned mother when a social worker appeared to check out the report. This just baffles me!!

The previous victim is extremely concerned for his child, and would love nothing more than to take custody. However.....the OW has a knack for using the legal system to her advantage. She is a master of "playing the victim" and makes her claims look so credible that she always gets sympathy from the judge.

When we started our legal battle, we told our lawyer up front what our main goals were. I wanted to bring the OW's deceptions to light, so that the judge would take a look into her past allegations against her previous victim. She managed to file a restraining order against him, and then used it to her full advantage by calling the police and accusing him of anything she felt would be believable. The poor man actually spent 5 months in jail for something he didn't do!!

But, I'm jumping ahead of myself here, sorry.

What we had hoped on doing was opening the door for him to sue for custody of his child. I'm not a revengful person by nature, but the only way we could do this is to have the OW put into jail. It was about time that she paid the price for all the harassment, false allegations (against him AND me), and to have her mental health examined by a professional. But, alas, money doesn't grow on trees, and legal counsel is so expensive. Besides, I found out the hard way that the judge didn't want to listen to me. After all, I was the betrayed spouse, and therefore stereotyped by society into seeking revenge. He believed the OW's claims against me, and I had no choice but to take their deal and hide low for 6 months.

This woman dangles the child in front of him like bait. He hasn't seen the child since she was 6 months old. All he's allowed to do is pay the CS and any extra money that's due from the child going to the doctor, which is quite often. Supposedly, the OW is convinced that the child has asthma and takes her to the doctor once a week. If it's not asthma, then the child has a skin rash.

I shudder to think how messed up these children will be when they grow up, get married, and have children of their own.

Sorry for the long post, there's much more I could say on this subject, but I think I'll give your eyes a rest.

To put it bluntly...yes, this woman is dangerous to anyone she comes in contact with. I tried to do something about it, but the legal system wouldn't cooperate.

#836485 10/26/04 04:03 PM
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How old is this child? If he has an attorney then he should fight for the safety of his daughter !!

Can't he call the school to find out why the child is always out of school? Can't he call the doctor and find out what treatment he is doing on the child?

Why is there NC with the child? Does he at least acknowledge the child on holidays and birthdays? People need to remember that no matter how they feel about a parent, it is not the childs fault.

My XW had an A which produced a child. When we got divorced I got custody of the child. He is not to blame for what his mother did and I love him so very much.

Try and contact this other man, for the safety of his child. This OW does not sound stable and sounds like she could blow at any time.

From what I have read on your post, it seems like there is enough info for him to get custody.

I only hope and pray that she could/would never hurt one of her children.

#836486 10/26/04 04:29 PM
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Sorry, I guess what I am trying to say is that I faught like hell for a child that wasn't even mine and won. It is hard for me to believe that a person wouldn't fight for a child that is their's especially since he claims to love and care about her so much.

This is just my opinion. I can't picture my XW raising this little boy of mine. This man neds to get his child for her own safety.

#836487 10/27/04 03:17 AM
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I had asked the man why he hadn't gone after custody. It was mainly because the OW had gotten the restraining order against him. As I said in my previous reply, she used it without mercy. She was terrorizing him and his family for 6 years with letters, stalking behavior, harassing phone calls, you name it. Because of all the false charges against him, his reputation has been ruined. In fact, the harassment more or less stopped when she got ahold of my husband. When we finally met him and his wife (through our lawyer) they told us that they had a few moments of peace, but were sad to find out why. They were brave enough to go to court with us to try to stop her, so that's why I wanted to help them.

He wasn't married when he had a relationship with her, She claimed to be pregnant (wasn't) and then eventually did get pregnant. The child is now 6 years years old. When he met the woman he wanted to marry and broke it off with the OW, she didn't take it too well. She started terrorizing his fiance.

As I had said, he would love to have custody of his child, but feels that he would be fighting a losing battle. He used most of his life savings defending himself against her false charges and can't afford to seek out a lawyer. He's also afraid of having her starting her harassment again.

The PVW is hoping that she steps over the line and gets herself in trouble. The problem is, is that her "hatred" seems to be directed at me, so I'm a sitting duck. That's why I'm constantly looking over my shoulder. You would think that enough time has passed for her to get over it, but she's still out for revenge. The restraining order has put a roadblock in her way, but she's constantly thinking about how to get around it.

As I told the PVW, such perservance would be admirable, if only it was used in a worthy cause.

All we can do at this point is wait, pray, and watch our backs.


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