I am curious... who here ( Besides myself! )on this board are the Betrayer, OW, OP, OM....? <P>I have an idea of who some (most) are, but without going through all the posts and profiles again, I am not sure. <P>I was just trying to to make it easier for myself to keep track. Also, it seems as if many of the old timers who were Betrayers, have all but vanished. Are you still here lurking as I am?<P>I am asking because sometimes I feel as if I need to post what is going on in my confusing life and am not sure if you are here to help me out.... <P>You know who you are.... Please, let me know.... Thanks...<BR>

Lacee,<P>I have been here for a long while just Lurking. I was the betrayer. I had and EA with my wifes best friend and my best freinds wife. (same person) With friends like me and <BR>OW who needs enemys right. You can look at Duck and Weaves posts in the "read only posts" to get the whole story. I just recently got my own nickname. Of course my wife picked it since we are from Kansas and we all know that "if I (scarecrow) only had a brain".!!!!! I have to run now but will check back in a couple of hours. Let me know if I can help you in any way. I have a feeling that a lot of the old timers are here also but just lurking. Of course we all are addicted now so we know they are here.<P>Greg

Scarecrow, Yes, they are lurking or have just chosen to take other venues..... But I think they are lurking....<P>See, for instance, I don't remember even seeing your name before. However, I may have and just not recalled it....<P>It just helps sometimes to know that there are others here that are going through the same things and there are a few, but not any that post much....<P>Thanks for posting.. I will call for help if I need it.....<P>

Hi, Lacee!<P>Yes, it's me...Jill. I know that you already know that I was a betrayer. I just wanted to remind you that I'm here...I'm not a "lurker". <P>Peace.<P>Jill

Hey Lacee, I am still here lurking away, I too have noticed the people whose posts I read when I first started lurking have seemed to have vanished. Makes it feel "kinda lonely on the ol board" somedays <BR>Cat

hi Lacee--<P>Let's trade confusions sometime. <P>I am a former betrayer/betrayee in my previous marriage. My H is a former betrayee/betrayer. I hang out here trying to learn from my mistakes, and to help people who are hurting as I do (or have done to others).<BR>

Hi, Lacee,<P>"Old-Timer" checking in. I'm mostly in lurk-mode these days but do check in to see what's going on, & post once in a while. All my info is in my profile. Would be glad to correspond with you about anything!<P>Suse

Hi Lacee,<P>Count another betrayer, I'm here... <P>I guess you could say I'm an old-timer, though not as old-timer as Suse or some others.<P>I very very rarely post these days, and mostly only lurk. Not much will bring me out of the woodworks. In fact, when I posted this, I almost forgot my password!<P>--andy

Hello everyone and thanks for checking in. It is so good to know that you are still here even though you are not posting much... just as I have not been. <P>There have been a few times that I had wished I could have been able to address some issues with some of you who have been through what I am going through.<P>I type out a post which I just end up deleting before sending. Sometimes, just writing it helped, but I did so much wish to get some responses and advice from those of you who encountered the same obsticals that I have. <P>If you see a new post from me, please know that I am looking for your advice. Most likely one of you will have a solution or insight to give me strength and help me keep moving forward. I really hate it when that "Just give up.." feeling hits me....<P>So to all of you who responded... Scarecrow, Jill, Caterpillar, Lucks, suse, airheart.. and all the rest that are just lurking... Here's hoping everyting is going well for you... And thanks again for letting me know that you are all still here..... <BR>

I'm ditto to what Lucks said. Former betrayer (to my ex), married the OM who was a betrayer. I'm here to learn from my past mistakes.

I'm still here.... <BR>I started an EA (inappropriate friendship) with an old college friend via internet.... I stopped immediately, and we were working on our marriage..... UNTIL H decided he could have a "friendship" with the twinky, and that even though it hurt me, he wouldn't stop. He said said it was no different... well, the main difference is that I stopped, he didn't.<BR>Now we are divorced and no longer speeking.<BR>B<P>------------------<BR>There are deep sorrows and killing cares in life, but the encouragement and love of friends were given us to make all difficulties bearable. <BR>-- John Oliver Holmes<P>The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference.<BR>-- Elie Wiesel<P><BR>

I am an OW. I started coming here, got MOSTLY support (because I was/am trying really, really hard to end the affair) but left because of some really harsh posts I read, calling OW a wh*re, and then another thread entitled something like "things I'd like to do to the OP" so I left and tried to handle it on my own. Am backsliding terribly because I stopped coming here. Got an email from a friend that posts here asking me to read some specific posts, saw this one and thought I'd stand up and say (shame on me) that I am an OW.