Jack,<BR>Those poor little girls! Thank God they have you!!!<P>I can honestly say after reading all of this that Gina has not grown up. And the fact that she agreed to let you try for adoption or custody just proves that right now she is only thinking about herself.<P>Even if things can't work out between you and her, you do what you feel you need to to give those girls all the happiness they deserve. I wish you nothing but luck.<P>Prayers to you and the girls,<BR>Mitzi

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Jack,<BR>It's good that she wants to talk. Just be sure not to be too demanding. Plan A all the way. Keep on her good side so that she doesn't change her mind. Think of what the outcome will be if you get the girls!!<P>Enjoy them as much as you can. Make every moment with them special. I hope things turn out good for you!<P>Take care,<BR>Mitzi

p.s. How's Abby's ear doing?? <P>Mitzi

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Jack,<BR>Glad to hear about Abby. My 7 year old gets ear infections all the time. Not fun either. He's had tubes in both ears and they both came out. Now his right ear is full of fluid again. He may have to get the tube put back in that one. The big problem is, his hearing is bad as long as the fluid is there. I feel like I'm yelling at him all the time! <P>Ok, try not to beg either. If you want to talk to her about how you feel, just state it. <P>About the dinner thing. That irks me. I know how hungry kids get when they've been in school all day. Maybe instead of a meal, just have a snack for them, like maybe some peanut butter crackers, or some fruit or do like my kids, eat a bowl of cereal. Especially if they are going to be eating dinner late in the evening. Just a little something to hold them until they get their dinner. <P>Just try not to do anything to upset her. It's hard I know, but hey, you can always vent here later! <P>Take care,<BR>Mitzi

Jack,<P>Welcome to MB forum. Be sure to read Jim's Welcome site under Just Found Out. It is a real help. When you post, be sure to give people time to reply, there are a lot of us in crisis out here, and sometimes, its hard to get to all the threads. Also by reading other's stories, and posting to them, you will get more replies back. <P>I am not in the same boat, but I have 3 girls, and my H left me on Xmas day. Moved in with the OW a week later, and is already coming after me for divorce. If you look up threads by name, you can read my story.<P>The pain you are feeling right now is normal. It is like experiencing death. I feel its worse than death. The best thing you can do is Plan A and familiarize yourself with the program. <P>I will reply more to you a little later, I have to get to work. Hang in there, and prayers are with you. Dana<BR>

Oh Jackh, <P>What a complicated story! This has entirely too much deception to be a stable situation, something will blow soon. Those little girls are not going to be able to stay silent. Be as good to yourself and to them as you can be. Try your best to Plan A.<P>I'm a bit confused, your girlfriend is planning to marry this guy before she knows who the father is? Sorry, if this is the case it does not sound like responsible or honorable behavior to me. <P>A lot of us will be thinking about you.

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Jack,<BR>Glad to hear the snacks went over well. Isn't it amazing how the littlest things make them so happy?!<P>One of these days, the girls are going to say something in front of the OM. They are so young and kids just can't keep quiet. It's not their nature. Kinda prepare yourself for what could happen if they do tell. <P>It would be great if you could get her to at least sign over guardianship of the girls before something like that happens. But don't pressure her. <P>Has she seen anyone about (legal aid, or a lawyer)you adopting the girls yet? You actually should see a lawyer, just for a consultation, about you possibly being the father of the unborn baby. They can order tests to be done when the baby is born. If it's yours, you can get visitation rights. Just something to think about for now.<P>Take care,<BR>Mitzi

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