jc-<BR>I am really glad you went to pick up that book. The whole reason we bought extra copies for the church to keep was that we thought it was such a great help and we wanted to help someone else. Our Pastor, (well, ex-pastor, now) really tried to help and I think he had the principles of the book right however, he had never quite had to deal with a situation such as ours and things did not go as planned from his stand point. We were a little hurt because we felt it could've been handled differently but we know it was ultimately our problem and we can't blame any of the result on him. Like I said the OW in our case is a loon and he just didn't see that at first.<P>Meanwhile...we have left that church, (because OW and her H decided that is where God wanted them, and to remain constant in our recovery by maintaining "no contact" we chose to leave.) the OW and her family have since not attended regularly at all and seem to have lost interest. (Is the fun of trying to tear us apart, worn off?) Our friends would like us to come back, as well as family members that attend there but the damage is done and it would never be the same. Our boys are settled and happy at our new church and we will be transferring our membership in the very near future. Although I hesitate to let too much religion out in my posts as to not offend anyone- I must say I truly believe that without God helping you through a situation like this the recovery will not happen. He provides grace when needed.<P>Gotta go it's a Blue Dragon BBall night. Read the book and keep in touch.<P><BR>D and W