I know that the WS's are on a continuum of how their "thinking" or lack of thinking is occuring. ie...some seem to be really out in complete...irrational thought.<P>Almost like mind control or brainwashing.<P>My D's counselor and I had an interesting conversation about this because my H came home from the trip with OP accusing me of the same things that I had heard him tell me that OP complained about her H' in the past year.<P>She and I talked about cults, brainwashing, sleep deprivation and mind control and deprogramming.<P>Anyway, I found and interesting site: <A HREF="http://www.rickross.com/reference/brainwashing/brainwashing11.html" TARGET=_blank>http://www.rickross.com/reference/brainwashing/brainwashing11.html</A> <P>THere is an interesting article on dealing with manipulative people!!!! from a book called "in Sheep's clothing"

Hi too:<BR>Listen, it sounds like you are having a tough week. I have to run just wanted to tell you to hang it there and know you are doing everything you can on your end. <P>Unfortunatley it is all up to him at this point. He is the one that will need to take the steps to get better and find out what is really at the route of his depression. <P>No one knows when he will be ready to do this. <P>Thanks for the insight on this link. I am sure it will be very interesting reading...<P>I'll check in on you later....