I was listening to Rush Limbaugh and heard about Jesse's 2 year old illegitmate child with the woman who accompanied him while she was 4 mos. pregnant with Jesse's child to the White House when he was counseling with Clinton about Monica. Pics with Jesse, the woman, Bill & Hillary.<P>I'm not outraged, just sad that another religious leader has fallen. Not only can I not throw stones, I'd be out of line throwing fish tank gravel.<P>Mrs. Jackson has my deepest sympathy & empathy and I hope that she knew before the news hit the stands & airwaves. <P>------------------<BR>Lor<BR>"Whatever is true, honorable, just, pure, lovely, gracious...think about these things." Phil 4:8

It has been my perception that he has used religion to further his goals for power and influence.<P>Nothing like trying to take the log out of your own eye before attempting to speck out of someone else's.<P>

I saw on the internet about it. I never really cared that much for Jesse Jackson. To be honest I never though of him as a minsiter but someone who had his own agenda and God never was a part of it. <P>You know what is sad:<P>- He is protecting the OW and OC more than his own wife and ligitamte children.<BR>- The OW was seen in public with him (how more public can you get than a photo op at the white house) with this pregnant OW when Jackson should have been seen with his wife.<BR>- He only mentioned this to beat the tabloids to the press. Not out of concern for his family.<BR>- Time, energy and love that should be going to his real children are being wested on this affair. His wife and children are going to have to pay for the rest of their life for his mistake.<P>I know you feel you can not cast a stone and to be honest I am not without sin either but this is too sickening. He is going to be praised for taking care of this child. This woman will be praised for her having his child while the entire time his wife and his children of the marriage will pay the price.<P>My dad cheated on my Mom and choose to raise other women's children than his own. All because he is a weak and thought it easier to start new relationships than work through the pain he created my Mom and us (his children). So as a child in this position do I really think my dad should have spent time and money on his affair children...NO. He should have been true to my Mom and his family.<P>Anyone can blast me all they want but in all honesty it sucks to be the wife and the children because you are informed that you do not matter only the welfare of the OC. Two wrongs (affair + child) do not make a right.

This stinks, His poor wife must be in horrible pain. Maybe she will find our Pregnancy/OC board. At least she will know she isn't alone. <P>Why oh why does this man have to be from here ! Think I'll start saying I'm from Oklahoma<P>------------------<BR>Deb<P>Hepatitis C, Please educate yourself ! <A HREF="http://www.hepatitis-central.com/<P>In" TARGET=_blank>http://www.hepatitis-central.com/<P>In</A> memory of a very dear friend <A HREF="http://fathom.org/teemingmillions/wally.adp" TARGET=_blank>http://fathom.org/teemingmillions/wally.adp</A>

I agree with Pahakissa---I've never really cared for him either. To me, he's one of the most unreligious Rev.'s I've ever seen and is always out for his own agenda.<P>I also agree that the only reason he came out with the statement was so that it wasn't leaked by the tabloids first. Else, we never would have heard about it.<P>I feel so very very sorry for Mrs. Jackson and his family. They are truly the ones that will hurt much more than he ever will over this.<P>Deb---I must be close to you--where abouts do you live?

I've never considered Jesse Jackson to be a "religious man" if you term religious to be a man of God. He promotes division and bigotry, characteristics I don't believe would be of God. God doesn't see our color, sex, nationality, etc. He sees the heart.<P>I don't know the details of this situation and don't really have the desire to know them. It's sad if it's true that he took this woman to the White House especially when he supposedly counseled Clinton about his immorality.

He's a cad, I've always known it. He also had an affair with Roberta Flack (Killing Me Softly) for about ten years. He sure did a good job of keeping his true colors hidden all these years

I feel sorry for his wife.<P>This is what he told Clinton during the Lewinsky scandal while he was having his own affair (and so was my h):<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>"If you respond with a contrite heart," Jackson told Clinton, "that obligates the public to respond with mercy." <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>So, we are <B>obligated</B>are we?<P>While many men have been guilty of this sin, there was never anything "reverend" about him.<P>He has made a name for himself (with all the money and power) by continually stirring up racial division where it doesn't exist. For ex. all the allegations cocerning African Americans not voting in Florida turned out to be totally false. All it did is stir up feelings of bigotry - just keep telling people they are being discriminated against even when it's not true!<P>What about the OW's $400K house and $10K/mo? Did that come from his contributions??? From the poor that support him?? Or the $40K in relo expenses? Or the job he appt. her to in Washington?<P>Will he lose his credibility or will it be all swept under the rug?<P>

He's about as contrite and sincere as a fence post in my eyes!<P>It will all be swept under the rug, without a doubt!

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by hurtinginil:<BR><B>Deb---I must be close to you--where abouts do you live?</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Houston, where else ?<P><P>------------------<BR>Deb<P>Hepatitis C, Please educate yourself ! <A HREF="http://www.hepatitis-central.com/<P>In" TARGET=_blank>http://www.hepatitis-central.com/<P>In</A> memory of a very dear friend <A HREF="http://fathom.org/teemingmillions/wally.adp" TARGET=_blank>http://fathom.org/teemingmillions/wally.adp</A>

Aren't we lucky that we aren't all high profile, public people and that our personal situations aren't disclosed to millions of people! His wife has to be so strong in front of so so many people!<BR>

While there is no way to condone what Rev. Jackson has done, as an African American I must take issue with a few of the things that have been posted.<P><B>He promotes division and bigotry, characteristics I don't believe would be of God. God doesn't see our color, sex, nationality, etc.</B><P>Throughout history, the majority has always made the rules and have written history through their eyes only. For a person of color to take stands against injustice where and when they see that injustice is not promoting division or bigotry, rather it is the opposite for those that are suffering from division and bigotry. Who says a man of the cloth is not to enter into social and political arenas? It is the history of African Americans that those from the church have been the leaders in the fight against bigotry and racism, it has also been our history that whomever has stood up againts those things have they themselves been labeled as such. God may not care about color, sex or nationality, but people do, and in this society those things are very, very important, those traits are at the very core of the discrimmination that takes place here in the United States. If Jesus were here today, wouldn't he too fight the injustices he saw based on color, sex and nationality?<P><B>...allegations concerning African Americans not voting in Florida turned out to be totally false</B><P>The "allegations" were in fact not about African Americans not voting in Florida, but rather that the counties that votes were dismissed were heavily populated by African Americans, thereby dismissing the African American vote. This is in fact true, and African Americans knew this long before they were "told" by Jesse Jackson.<P><B>Time, energy and love that should be going to his real children....</B><P>Whether that child be a product of a marriage or not, that child is no less "real" than his other children. Will he be praised for taking care of this other child, by some and by others he will not, but what would you rather he do at this point? He can't go back and undo what has been done, so should he now just turn his back and do nothing for this child, what would you say then??????<P><B>the only reason he came out with a statement was so that it wasn't leaked by the tabloids first. Else, we never would have heard about it</B><P>This statement is probably right, but what makes him different than anybody else. Why would you have heard about it, it was nobody else's business, it was and is a matter for he and his family. Do the people here go out and make public their private family matters. While he is a public figure, he is not an elected official, and therefore his private life is not, nor should it be an open book for all to read.<P>Again, I will reiterate that Rev. Jackson's infidelity can not be condoned or defended, but some of the statements here on this post would be considered offensive to many, many African Americans, and as an African American, I really felt that the majority people here on this site that don't come into contact with many minorities, needed to hear what was offensive and why.<P><p>[This message has been edited by F A (edited January 19, 2001).]

FA,<P>I agree with your reply.<P>I can't believe I'm typing this, but I thought that I should comment.<P>Jesse Jackson has sinned, done a horrible act, just as most of our wayward spouses have. Unfortunately, his resulted in OC. He is a public figure so his dirty laundry gets to be publicized everywhere for all to see.<P>However, in most of our cases, despite the ugliness & pain, most of us have forgiven our spouses.<P>Jesse Jackson is a man, first & foremost. He's human. He isn't God. Why is it so hard to believe that even he, a Reverend, would do something like this?<P>He's in a fog, just as wayward spouses are. They say & do things that are unbelievable...such as, consoling Clinton while accompanied by his mistress. He acted like a hypocrite, but then, didn't our wayward spouses act like this too (when they were in the fog)?<P>It's plain old sickening, but I think that everyone should remember that he's only human, and humans make mistakes.<P>Instead of reacting to this, as the media & some politicians wants us to react, I think that the best thing to do, would be to just pray for him & his family...and that they get through this difficult episode.<p>[This message has been edited by Survivor [aka_NoTrust] (edited January 19, 2001).]

FA<BR> Jesse Jackson worked for and learned from Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., but it seems that he's forgotten the lessons Dr. King taught him. Dr. King was not a man of hatred, violence, or bigotry. He fought these evils with education and positive words. Dr. King helped bring us together, Jesse Jackson, IMHO, is tearing apart what Dr. King did. <P><BR>As a man of God, one would live life as God revealed to us in His Word. Don't you think there were the same injustices in Jesus' time? What did He do when He faced the Pharisees, Saducees, and those who sought to kill Him? He used the Word spoken in love to combat injustices. He never provoked people to break the law. Dr. King did this also. Jesse Jackson is a major disappointment to me. <P>FA-how can you know that I or anyone else posting here is not African-American? The statement you made about "coming into contact with minorities" made me laugh. An opinion someone has that is different from your own doesn't make that opinion wrong or from ignorance. It's just that-different. The freedom we have to fight what one perceives as injustice is the same freedom that gives us the right to express our opinions. <P>

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR> Jesse Jackson worked for and learned from Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., but it seems that he's forgotten the lessons Dr. King taught him. Dr. King was not a man of hatred, violence, or bigotry. He fought these evils with education and positive words. Dr. King helped bring us together, Jesse Jackson, IMHO, is tearing apart what Dr. King did. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Agreed wholeheartedly, AM Hurt... Jackson is a hatemonger and a bigot of the worst kind, and for one reason only: he loves the sound of his own voice and seeing his face on TV. He preaches intolerance and division, and has no interest whatsoever in racial harmony because were it to actually come about, the cameras would turn elsewhere.<P>------------------<BR>Resentment is like taking poison and waiting for the other person to die