I'm in sort of the same situation as you - my husband has told me that even if his relationship with the OW doesn't work out, that he still doesn't want me. He wants 'out' and tells me constantly to go and 'live my life how I want to', that he doesn't want to tie me down. I know from what he has confided to his relatives that he feels pretty guilty over the way he's treated me during our marriage, and also guilty that he's been such a poor father to our kids (nothing 'bad', just the fact that work always came first and he had neither time or patience for them).<P>BUT....<P>I hang onto the fact that he has not yet filed for divorce - he has no grounds to do this, but I have told him that I won't divorce him and it will have to be him divorces me if that's what he wants. So far he has moved out, but there have been no attempts at divorce. That gives me hope. The other thing to remember is that the WS's emotions are just as up and down as the BS's - one day my husband is telling me that he will NEVER be in love with me again and he doesn't want to give our marriage even a single chance - then a few days later he'll admit to 'Still being very mixed up' and that my decision not to sell our house and to stay in America (I'm British), for the next few months is the 'right one'. I haven't even suggested counselling as I KNOW what his response would be at the moment - as far as he's concerned he's madly in love with the OW, she is his 'soulmate', and he is willing to wait for her to decide whether she wants to leave her own husband or not. <P>Quite often the affair has to develop in order to destroy itself. At the moment the wayward couple are living in a 'fantasy bubble' of romantic dinner dates, hand-in-hand strolls in the park, lively and fascinating conversations, finding out all the new things about each other. Of course it's all so wonderful - but it's not real. They don't see that because they're IN the bubble, protected from real life. But bubbles are very fragile and eventually Real Life creeps in and starts to disturb their perfect romantic world. Guilt feelings, financial worries, finding out about each others less attractive habits - all eventually lead to arguments and disappointment and the bubble bursts.<BR>It may be that you have to stand back and allow this relationship to 'happen' before it ends, I hope not - but you have to be prepared for that. It all takes time and a hell of a lot of hope on your part, but we are here to help you through the bad times, give advice and lend a shoulder to cry on. Just don't give up just yet - keep hanging on and keep telling yourself how strong you are. You have a lot of sturdy, secure things on your side, whereas he's clinging to a fragile fantasy. Keep pulling!!!<BR>hugs, Paint