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Those of you who are not in the New York area aren't being treated to day-to-day, excruciating coverage of the Rudy Giuliani/Donna Hanover divorce.<P>For those of you who don't know the story: Rudy Giuliani, Republican mayor of New York, has been openly dating his "very good friend", a woman named Judy Nathan. This is a guy who told his wife that he was divorcing her via a televised press conference to the media. At any rate, the situation has become ugly, with Donna Hanover, the mayor's wife trying to keep the girlfriend out of Gracie Mansion, which is the official Governor's mansion, and the mayor's lawyers saying he can have whoever in there he wants, because it's a public building.<P>Imagine your husband bringing his paramour to your home WHILE YOU'RE THERE, and you can imagine what's going on.<P>According to a report I heard on NewsRadio88 this morning, Giuliani is now claiming that he could not have carried on a "full sexual relationship" with Judy Nathan, because his surgery for prostate cancer has rendered him impotent.<P>A related story on this appears at the [url=]New York Daily News[/url]<P>What the Mayor is saying, in essence, is that because he can't do the old in-out, in-out (if indeed, that's the case), he has not committed adultery.<P>Sound familiar?<P>You'd be surprised at how many people believe that if there ain't no intercourse, there ain't no sex. It doesn't matter what other practices there are. I'm sure those of you whose spouses have "just kissed" others, or those of us who have seen our spouses exchanging significant looks with another, would disagree.<P>My point in posting this story is simply this: I've seen many, many postings on here from people who, wanting to blame SOMEONE for their spouse's affair, or what seems to be an epidemic of infidelity (and keep in mind that what we see here is a skewed sample). They have decided that no one ever cheated on his/her spouse prior to Bill Clinton, and that no one else has ever split hairs about what constitutes sex. They believe "liberals" are somehow more prone to extramarital affairs (Bob Barr, Newt Gingrich, Bob Livingston, Jimmy Swaggart, and according to some reports, George H.W. Bush (the old one) give lie to that notion).<P>Some one posted a thread here about whether infidelity hurts Christians more. Initially I found that title offensive, until I read the post.<P>The fact of the matter is that no particular political affiliation has a greater propensity than any other to commit adultery. No religious affiliation has a greater propensity than any other to commit adultery. And no political or religious affiliation INSULATES us from temptation, or from stepping over the line.<P>I think it's useful to treat each of our cases individually, and not try to explain the inexplicable by pointing fingers at politicians and famous people, who live lives different from ours anyway.

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I absolultely agree!

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See? They all read the same script!<P>Remember, it can hinge on what the definition of "is" is.<P>WAT

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Don't forget Jeb Bush!<P>I read in today's New York Daily News that he is likely having an affair with a former Playboy Bunny who he promoted last year and also he has been rumored to have been involved with the FLA Secretary of State.<P>I'm sure that the formerly fat Rush Limbaugh will have a defense for this creep.

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You're absolutely right...the political scene is and always has been awash in infidelity with "power is an intoxicating aphrodesiac" ss the mantra. However, this is not a political forum where we take sides and point fingers at Democrats (sometimes I vote Democrat) or Republicans (sometimes I vote Republican). I mentioned "Bill" in a post yesterday, not because he is a Democrat, but because he behaved like a buffoon and was our President and made our country look silly and undisciplined. Blame the media for it's big mouth...they don't protect our leaders like they did when JFK and LBJ and FDR and Ike and all the rest were cavorting with their paramours.<P>Dazed, you don't have to get defensive or militant defending your Prez by pointing out that there are lot's of other snakes slithering around out there. We know this and it is disgusting and embarrassing. However, most everyone else's infidelity pales in comparison to Bill's because we are now desensitized to it and they do not hold the high position he did. He was Grand Puba, after all.<P>I was simply making a point that men often become laughing stocks in their community when they cheat on their wives...from the mighty to the small.<P>That's my story and I am sticking to it.<P>Catnip =^^= <p>[This message has been edited by catnip (edited May 14, 2001).]


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