Zor et al,<BR>I am dying, almost wetting myself and the meer thought of where Reality checks thread is going to go.<P>Notice I started a new thread as not to dignify RC's thread. I have read these type of threads from posters trying to stir up trouble. There is no saisfaction to that poster if no one responds. I have taken a stand not add o the growing number on the thread list. I once saw a thread with a titled that obviously was meant to provoke and incite arguement. Three days later there were over 100 posts. It was ridiculous.<P>My position is to blow these threads off with a "whatever" and move to a thread that actually has meaning.<BR>Anyone care to follow me?

Well, well, well! I come back to the old GQII board and look what's going on!<P>I responded to both CofW and RC's threads, with different reasons for both. I think CofW is genuine, and at least at some level knows what she's doing is wrong. As a person who is divorced as a result of a (failed) affair, I feel it is my responsibility to come back here and offer a view from the other side. The grass ain't always greener, 'cause I'm looking at a dead lawn!<P>As for "Realitycheck," I can only say that we need to shout down that which we know is wrong. Ignoring evil does not make it go away. People like that may come here looking for a fight. What should we give them? Should we ignore them and hope they go away? Will that really work?<P>Sure, ignoring them will make them go away, but it won't <I>teach them anything.</I>

Hi cjack - it's good to see your moniker again.<P>We need to a dose of "reality" once in a while. The reality I'm speaking of is that there are many people on this rock who have a different set of values and different ideas about their status in the world. What is "right" to us is not necessarily "right" to them, and vice versa. Not every body lives by the Golden Rule. We have to accept that. Neither we nor they should try to "educate" the other beyond making our respective beliefs known. When we choose to try to "fix" the other, we enter a no win process that invaribly leads to continuing confrontation. One only need to step back and look at the big political issues in the world that will never end - the middle east problem, the Northern Ireland problem, the Serbs and Croates, etc, etc, etc.<P>OK, 'nuff said. I'll shut up.<P>WAT

I thought I was open minded to HF and other OW/OP and wanted there insight. But I don't like having smoke blown up my #^%, and I think that is exactly what some posters are doing. They come here, post and then run to other boards for cheaters and say the opposite. That is why i don't reply to some or I will reply once, say what i have to say and then won't continue that post hoping no one will give it anymore life than it deserves. Yes everyone has a different spin here, but if the GLORY or Philanderers board (and most of the Philanderer's poster's think we are all pathetic at MB) do not want flamers or ignorant posters because it is a board for OP and WS, want everyone to understand and respect that, then why come here and get upset because we want people to understand that this is a MARRIAGE BUILDER site. You would think the NAME of the board would be a hint and a half for most but yet we still get some closed minded people who want to belittle us for sticking up and fighting for OUR LOVE just as they claim they are doing.

I, too, tend not to post to threads such as the ones to which Heart's Cry is referring. I don't think their minds are yet open to learn from anything I would have to say.<P>I get frustrated when I see angry posts on their threads. No one is ever going to learn when they are yelled at. And no one ought to be yelled at. Yes, it's hard to listen to sometimes, but yelling back and forth simply diminishes both parties.<P>So I basically agree with Heart's Cry. If I don't have anything constructive to say (or if I do have something constructive to say, but can't keep a thick skin if my reply is not met with open arms), I avoid posting to those threads. <P>Just MHO...<P>Blessings.<BR>HBC

I am of the one-response philosophy, I guess.<P>The come and make a statement which is the antithesis of MB's purpose. To let it go lets them continue that rude behavior and gives the impression to them that we are not willing to stand up for our beliefs.<P>Should escalate into full-blown confrontation? Of course not. Tell what you think and show 'em the door (or to the transporter room so they can beam up to the mothership).<P>Godspeed,<BR>STL

I dont know about anyone else but to me (IMO) these OWs that are here to "profess their love' for MM's and stuff along those lines..such as...... true Love with OM yadda yadda....... well to me these are like triggers........not only cause of the fact that one of them is my H's OW but the fact that most (not all) plainly dont see the damage they have helped to cause.or if they see the damage they dont care to aknowledge it out of curiouslty these OW's haw many have been betrayed?...... and how can they sit there and inflict the same kind of hurt that they experienced on someone else?...... I was raised to see all of woman kind as sisters of a sort.....now all i see it petty compotition<P><BR>wow im not making much sense am I?.....sorry bout that

Is it just me or are the 3 OW's in question here very similar?<P>why do all their names have something to do with Water?<P><BR>Oooo The must all be Pisces

1FuctMarriage,<P>CascadeOfWater is a WS not an OW. <P>Ok I give up. Besides humblefish, who are the OW here with names have something to do with Water?<P>Just curious.<P>Z<P>

<P><BR> i noticed that after i posted bout the ws thing<P><BR>Rainefall was the other i noticed<p>[This message has been edited by 1FuctMarriage (edited June 27, 2001).]

I have to say besides Hurtbutcoping you guys have talked me into atizzy. I am not sure who was agreeing and who wasnt. To clarify I am not of the opinion that if you dont agree with me you are wrong. However, I am of the opinion that the louder they are the less they have to stand on. i have seen some pretty compelling conversations here where posts get heated but they remain civil. We all walk away friends better for it. When posters come in and stir up troubl just for the sake of trouble I have to wonder about their authenticity and validity of their "story"<P>Thats all I wanted to say.

Heart,<BR>I did note in my post that i didnt think i was making much sense...but yes im agreeing with you... in a round a bout way.sorry bout that<P><BR>1FM,<BR> I think rainefall is a Ws too I dont remember if her OM was married or not though