Ha! My last post? I knew if I read some of the drivel you zealots posted it would drive me. First of all, and most important, YOU DON'T KNOW ME. I read 1 page of "waiting for the fallout" (fortunately for you AFTER I posted "So Long")and felt some nuclear fusion was COMPLETELY appropriate YOU sophmoric deviants. (some of you may need a dictionary so please pay close attention) My faith in GOD is irrefutable even to "StrongerInCali" Had it not been for me(no applause please)she would not be any more aware than she is now nor drawing your cheers, praise, and approval/disapproval. I'M NOT THE ONE whose oblivious to anything I'VE done. "I know I'm a bad person" so buck up! I EfftUpMyLife and I'm painfully of aware of it (especially when I realize I'm trying to blame someone/thing else. I'm supposed to "save" myself with "support" and "encouragement" from the likes of half cocked buffoons such as yourselves? Honestly? Does GOD want me to destroy my marriage? Had I been listening to GOD the entire time, I would not have been married in the first place!! GOD is blameless, Cali is, I SHOULD'VE BEEN THE ONE TO MOVE ON WHEN GOD TOLD ME TO!!! NO thanks to ANY of your useless rhetoric. What do I do about it now??? HuH?? Yes!! Correct!!! You don't know!!! You can't know!!! (If you maintain to possess a modicum of good/common sense those are the ONLY ANSWERS to those questions) Post again? Only in my evening ennui, which I truly no longer have since I have such MONUMENTAL decision making to do. Peace . . . and BACK THE **** OFF.

And making decisions in anger is a good thing?<P>Godspeed,<BR>STL

*Sigh*...I don't believe any *monumental decision* ever made in anger, was the right one. And, by the way, no I don't believe God ever wanted you to destroy your marriage, nor do I believe He wants you to give up on it now. Just like I dont believe he wants you to give up on yourself. And the term wayward...does not imply that you are *bad person*. <P>What you do now...step up to the plate...that takes real strength...no matter what you think of anyone here...we are pulling for your marriage.<P>Good luck with your decisions....<P>Ron

I am sorry for your pain.

Eff,<P>Why is it you want to make us mad at you?<P>Ishmael

((((((EfftUpMyLife))))))<P>Sorry that you have so much anger built up inside of you.<BR>I'm not here to judge you or tell you what is right or wrong....because I do not know you. <BR>When people come here....it's usual to ask for help, advise, strength and so on....but to be verbally abused because we do not know you is a little much don't you think? Afterall....you do not know us either.<BR>The reason I came here was to ask for help in saving my marriage.....not be insulted because I want to save my marriage. It takes more strength to make a marriage work than it does to destroy it.<BR>

Sophmoric deviants?! Goodness, do you feel better now? I take it you are upset because we all have a little anger to vent over the treatment we have recieved from our spouses and so we understood and tried to support your wife?<P>If we had not been here, if your wife had not recieved our support and encouragement, do you think honestly she would have coped nearly half as well as she has while watching you carry on your love affair under her nose? I would think a little gratitude would be in order if you were to try reading honestly more than just one part of a very long relationship.<P>I have never yet seen anyone make a wise decision while in the midst of such irrational anger. But you think what you want of us for having survived treatment such as this and come out wiser and stronger, I'm sure that your angry decisions will be much better than anyone else's, yes?<P>

It's going to be okay. You've gotten your life to the point it is, you can get it back to a tolerable place, one way or another. <P>Yelling isn't going to help. Even if you yell twenty-five cent words.<P>Deep breath. It's hard to hear the Voice of God over the din of angry words.<P>Where do you want to go? What do you want to do? If you do not wish to continue your marriage, I would suggest that you end it. But do so gently and with dignity. Don't "eff" up any more.<P>Blessings to you.<BR>HBC

Mr. Efft:<P>"some of you may need a dictionary so please pay close attention....."<P>SANCTIMONIOUS < go look it up!!!! Or is hypocrite easier for you to comprehend?

[QUOTE]Originally posted by EfftUpMyLife:<BR> My faith in GOD is irrefutable QUOTE]<P>Then am I safe to assume you are not opposed to His Word?<BR>Turn to His Word if your faith in him is irrefutable for it is there that you will find forgiveness and hope and strength to make your monumental decisions. Seek His will for your life and there you will find happiness beyond your own understnading. You say if you had listened to Him in the first place you would not be married. That is beside the point now that you have promised before God and your wife "to forsake all others, keeping only unto her." God honors those who keep the promises made before him. It may be excruciatingly painful now,but if you uphold your honor,you will be honored by the only One who matters.<P>His Word <P>concerning marriage<BR>Heb 13:4-5<BR>Prov 18:22<P>concerning adultery<BR>Prov 6:20-7:27<P>concerning anger<BR>Eph 4 17-32<P><BR>God bless you G, and may you find peace.<P><BR><p>[This message has been edited by mthrrhbard (edited June 28, 2001).]

<P>------------------<BR><B>Time heals all wounds as long as you DON'T pick at them!</B><p>[This message has been edited by GeezLouise (edited June 28, 2001).]

GL:<P>It is also said: Time wounds all heels.<P>Godspeed,<BR>STL

Ahhhhhhh......STL........that's a good one :-Þ<P>------------------<BR><B>Time heals all wounds as long as you DON'T pick at them!</B>

GL:<P>Thanks, but like all really great one-liners, I stole it.<P>Godspeed,<BR>STL

I won't even address the moron!<P> Cali, I feel for you. So much more now, than before. Know that we are here for you Cali. No matter what happens with the ego-maniac. You be strong!<P> Maybe I will address him one time. Hey moron, wanna borrow some hollow points? You'll only need one though. With your education you probably don't know what they are, or how to use them....never mind I wouldn't waste them on the likes of you. What a *[censored]*!!!

jdmac1:<P>It is easy to take exception to what efft said. But angry words from within the fog should not draw angry words from outside it.<P>Although many thoughts along those lines passed through my mind. <smile><P>Godspeed,<BR>STL

Of course you are correct. However, I know anger! I know "HIS" type as well, and that type draws something very dark from within me. I find that I am unable to control myself when someone like this surfaces on the boards.<P> Yes, this does sadden me. Because I am aware that my own words can cause pain for the person who loves this man. I try to keep my big mouth shut, but alas.....I cannot. For that, Cali, I apologize. <P> I felt the same rage with Belldandys' last post to these boards. Not toward her tho.

You guys should really apologize for these remarks. Sinking to such levels of critisism is not very MB or going to help them. I mean just because he wouldn't ever address us this way if he were to see us on the streets, and in that situation you would all be in the right to be offended, this place and situation are a little different. I would hope we could try to become a little more diplomatic. <P>Right now there is a marriage about to go down the toilet and Cali and G need our support and for us to all be able to help and not critisize. Efft, if my words have in any way offended you I for one aplogize, and if you would like to come back and actually talk to us, I would be interested in trying to help.<P>

My feelings are EfftupMyLife is a good man who has temporarily gone astray, clearly he's in enormous pain. We should be supporting him and feel compassion for him. He came here at his wife's urging. He was testing the waters and we may have disappointed him.<P>Certainly we can do better than take personal offense to the things he had to say. He was reaching out, he's hurting and conflicted. If we're fortunate enough to have him visit us again, I would hope we all might try being a bit more introspective in our responses and offer him the same compassion we offer BS's.<P>Lots of prayers for All,<BR>Jo<P>------------------<BR>"Remain flexible like a reed, as opposed to an oak which can snap in the wind"

Don’t you know what you guys are doing? Do you know how difficult it is on his side right now? He can’t help it. XWSs perhaps you forgot what it felt like to be there. I read ur responses directed to Cali’s H on her post to him as well as her other posts, even I was infuriated & felt suffocated & thought what a bunch of bollocks it was. Though some of you managed to give some practical insights in the situation, the rest of it make you guys look like complete toss pots. I honestly thought that she shouldn’t have asked him to come into this site. He can’t handle people and those who knows absolutely nothing about him to make these assumptions, tell him what he’s doing is wrong and then say everything will be all right if he wanted it to be and that Cali and you guys are here to help that happen. He’s already got Cali to do that and look what it came out to. Aren’t we all a little sanctimonious?<P>When I first came here 4-5 months ago, I resisted saying anything all. I thought what a bunch of [censored], it’s really mad. To have you guys saying all that at me, I probably would have lashed out the way he did. I quote this from someone who once posted here ‘ instead of exorcising ur demons, u r exercising them’ on him. How is any of this going to help Cali at all?<P>