OK, I read the thread about WAT and the dogs. I can relate. Well, my situation is a bit reversed, but still related. My WH HATED the dogs. Not always, but this was one major LB for him in the last year (maybe not quite that long). Anyway, he is gone, gone. Haven't talked to him, or heard from him in 6 weeks, but I know he will eventually lift his head out of the fog long enough to want to know how things are going, or why haven't I signed the DA** div. papers, or whatever.<BR> <BR> ANyway, my problem is I am trying to get rid of the dogs. They were my babies, I know, I know. I had NO IDEA they were a big part of his unhappiness. Now I know (too little, too late; I've always been kinda on the *slow* side!). I think it would be a major Love Bank depositor if they were gone when I talk to him next. He'd see I'm *trying* to meet him halfway.<P>Well, they are a, umm, peculiar breed, and it's not so easy finding places for them. I'm running out of ideas. I've contacted zoos, rescue groups, and I'm running out of ideas. What am I going to do when I can't get rid of the dogs? I mean, I'm thisclose to calling a local vet and just doing the UNthinkable. But - if this a point of NO negotiation for him - a TOTAL LB, then they "gotta go". Period. I have prayed and called everywhere I can think of. Please, someone give me an idea I haven't thought of yet.<P>Lupo

Lupo:<P>Have you tried your local Humane Society or Animal Rescue? They may be able to point you in the right direction.<P>And, yes, if they are a major LB to him, and if you want to recover your marriage, then the dogs should go.<P>Godspeed,<BR>STL

<B>Have you tried your local Humane Society or Animal Rescue? They may be able to point you in the right direction.<BR></B><P>STL,<BR> Thank you for replying. Yes, I have tried HS. Because of the *breed* - or cross-breed they are, they would "put them down" if I brought them there. Even if they did not do that, they would NOT be adopted out. It's against their policy with this breed. Which means sentencing them to a life of living in a 6x10 pen. I'd rather go with Plan E (Euthanasia).<P>Yes, I have called all Rescue groups in a 100 mile range (because of travel arrangements, since I will probably have to drive them there), and even tho people tell me they are trying to help me, everything ends up being a brick wall. I'm very depressed over this one thing. It's bad enough that I have to do this (I want to to save my M, but it's killing me to do it) and then on top of it, it's not even going well. <P>STL, Thanks for listening.<P>Lupo

Hi there I have no answers for you as I am in South Africa I would imaged our law/restrictions on animals are very diferent, I am however very curious regarding the breed? What breed/cross breed are they that its so difficult to find them other homes ?<BR>Regards<BR>Jen

Based on your user name, I assume you own wolf hybrids. You write of only looking for rescue groups within 100 miles of your home - please expand your search keeping in mind it is very common to ship animals throughout the world. Think of it like that AmEx commercial: shipping = a few hundred bucks; peace of mind = priceless!<P>Search the net for groups, e.g., "wolf breed rescue".<P>Assuming I'm right about the breed, here are a few I came up with for you:<P>Wolf Hybrid North American Wolf/Wolf Hybrid Rescue Network, Inc.<BR>- Sandy Williams, New Jersey, 609-627-1186 <BR>- Robert Stubbe, Rockville, MD 301-762-4607<P>Wolf Hybrid Rescue, Where Wolves Rescue<BR>- Danya Lesnick, AZ 602-867-8968<BR>- Jane Lucas, AZ 602-973-3958<P>Wolf Hybrid Rescue - 818-382-4777<P>Candy Kitchen (Wolf & Wolf-dog) Rescue Ranch<BR>Star Route 2, Box 28<BR>Ramah, NM 87321<BR>(505) 775-3304 <A HREF="http://www.inetdesign.com/candykitchen/" TARGET=_blank>http://www.inetdesign.com/candykitchen/</A> <BR>e-mail = candywlf@cia-g.com<P>EagleWolf Foundation<BR>FIN#62-1713230<BR>350 Yarbrough Way<BR>Olive Hill, TN 38475<BR>(901)925-6965 <A HREF="http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~laird/animal_rescue/jump?name=EagleWolf%20Foundation" TARGET=_blank>http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~laird/animal_rescue/jump?name=EagleWolf%20Foundation</A> <P>I'm not aware of your full story, and understand your dogs were a major LB to your H, but have you made sure that your WH is willing to return to you if you get rid of the dogs? As they are so important to you, I would hate for you to get rid of them and end up divorcing anyway.<P>I know it's a moot point, but I was wondering if you had the dogs before you married? Meaning, did your H accept the dogs at one point as part of the "package", or did you buy them later against his wishes, or what?<P>You should also be running ads to sell your dogs on the internet and in your local papers. Assuming they are healthy, please don't think the unthinkable E-word yet! <P>I wish you the best of luck and look forward to hearing an update! <P>gobyfish

Lupo - wow, what a toughie. If gobyfish is correct, that's a good string to pull.<P>If not the wolf half-breeds, are there any other breed related enthusiast groups out there?<P>Your logic and caring are well communicated. Good luck.<P>WAT

Dear WAT - <P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>If not the wolf half-breeds, are there any other breed related enthusiast groups out there?</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>There are groups for all breeds. If you (or anyone else) need help finding one, please let me know what breed you have! I read your related post but didn't see the breed mentioned... <P>However, if it is a "regular" breed and they are house-trained, it is often easiest to place an ad in a local paper first before contemplating shipping them off to a rescue group. I prefer not to send them to shelters where they often languish indefinitely, if not forever, or are put to sleep after a certain period if not adopted. Did your W turn down the dogs so you are now looking for a new home for them? <P>Although I have never failed finding new homes for different animals, I feel you are obligated to spend time carefully investigating the conditions of the new location and new owner(s) to ensure that the desire and ability to care for the animals exists. <P>For example, upon investigation, it once turned out that a very friendly and nice couple wanting to adopt much-loved pet ducks and a pet goose were actually planning to EAT them! I probably should have known better - it was around Thanksgiving!<P>gobyfish<p>[This message has been edited by gobyfish (edited July 02, 2001).]

<B>Based on your user name, I assume you own wolf hybrids.<BR> </B><BR>Goby, you are very perceptive! Also, because of past umm, "problems" with certain local state breeders, I am trying to do this on the quiet side. H WAS with me on the dog issue, whole-heartedly favored our involvement, and we made the dive into this realm together. However, that was a long time ago, and our commitment to keeping our puppies, any we couldn't place went waaay beyond logic when we found ourselves with 6 animals to care for. His biggest complaints of late were that there was just too much work caring for them, and they tie us down, and we can't take vacations together or go away for extended periods of time. He was correct on all counts.<P>I cannot take care of them by myself, so either way, 6 large dogs is way too many. I'm trying to trim it down to a manage-able 2. I have a group who is building a pen to take 2, but that leaves 2 more that have to go. UNFORTUNATELY, they are probably the hardest 2. They are 2 females, they are not particularly social - not biters, just afraid of strangers, and they don't look too much like wolves, more like Mals, but Mals THEY AIN'T! <P>Goby, thank you for doing the legwork and the list. Some on this list I had heard of, or talked to in the past. I guess I have to extend my search and keep working on it.<P>Thanks, all, for your support. It sounds like such a minor thing, compared to having children, or pregnant, or disabilities, or whatever, that I hesitated bringing it up. I'm glad now that I was forced to! <P>Lupo <P>

Lupo:<P>No problem that is a fundamental cause of contention in a marriage is too trivial. Please don't hesitate to voice any concern here. This place is about helping one another.<P>And, cool, I learned some things about wolves (I got curious and did some browsing). See? We all learn from each other here.<P>Godspeed,<BR>STL

<B><BR>And, cool, I learned some things about wolves (I got curious and did some browsing). See? We all learn from each other here.</B><P>STL, you are truly amazing!! I hope when my H's fog lifts, he posts on here, as he "used to" have a sense of humor to match yours!! I think of him often when I read something you have written...it sounds so much like something he would say or think!<BR>Lupo<BR>