I cannot think of a name posted this at the end of her thread this morning:<P><I was called this morning and was told that my husband found the woman and shot her, and then shot himself. I do not know why i am in here typing this but for the fact i am numb. God does not give us more than we can handle right. Thank God my son is not here. I will be going to my family today, my sister is coming to get me. thankyou for all your support. Sorry i am just really numb, and in shock. How do i tell our son?> <P>Yikes!<P><BR>

Elad,<BR>I just read that also. I feel like I got punched in the stomach. I'm sitting here now desparately trying to think of what to say to her. I don't know where to begin. I hope someone wiser will be along soon.. In the meantime, I'm praying for her and her son

Words leave me...<P>Cali

All:<P>There are human tragedies that defy words. This is such a case.<P>If any WS or OP thinks that there are no consequences to their actions, ICTOAN's post should be your wake-up call.<P>Godspeed,<BR>STL

OMG, I cannot even imagine her pain. Sitting here wanting to cry and yet I’m also angry.<P>I just don’t understand why people put themselves and their loved one’s at risk. This is not a game it is people’s lives and health. Yet adultery and sleeping around are still so common. HIV is not the only deadly incurable STD out there. Why do people take these risks for a few minutes of fun?<P>This should be a wake up call. Unfortunately there are not many active WSs here to read this poor lady’s story. <P>Z<BR><P>------------------<BR>He loves not who does not show love.<BR>----William Shakespeare

Yes, I too read this post and I'm at a loss as to what to say.<P>Kind of puts everything else in perspective, doesn't it?<P>This is where the distance created by online support and friendships has limits....there's only so much we can be there for her. <P>This is our worst nightmare about infidelity come true. The only thing that ought to shock us is that we didn't read of a story like this sooner.

Dazed and Confused<P>You are right it is amazing that we have not heard something like this story sooner because we all know that many many lives are destroyed in this manner by affairs.<P>Affairs open our lives to all sorts of horrible possibilities. It is not just about someone "not being in love" any more or some one just wanting "a little on the side". It boils down to selfishness that can blow up in everyone's face.<P>I am in shock this morning.<P>Z<P>------------------<BR>He loves not who does not show love.<BR>----William Shakespeare

I wish there was a way to put this in the newsletter or something... so that EVERYone could read it!!<P>...not to take away or minimize the pain we've all felt throughout our marriages, but THIS kind of pain is far beyond anything any of us has been through.

Speechless.<P>Do we know if they were killed?

I am sure it will be in the news. Maybe not nationwide but still in the news. My suggestion is that we at least share this tragic event with our supporters and WS. Word of mouth can be a dangerous way to spread the news (grapevine scenario), so let's stick to the facts. But word of mouth can also be productive in bringing to light the tragedy of the A. If this saves others from having to live through this horrible nightmare, then it may bring a bit of comfort to all who have been hurt by this. On the other hand, it needs to be a major wake up call to all out there not to take it for granted that it could not get WORSE. It can and in this crazy world it will!!!! <P>Is any of us beyond repair? That is up to us? We all in our respective families have the tools to become better persons. Let each of us use those tools and make them available for the rest of our families and friends. <P>My heart hurts so much for ICTOAN and her family, it is hard to concentrate on anything else. Yet we must. <P>Please all take care, we all need a hug today.<P><<<<<hugs to all>>>>><P>L.<BR>

Haven't seen anything on the news about this story/shooting. ?

My preferred hope is that this post is a prank.<P>[This message has been edited by Mike C2 (edited July 16, 2001).]<p>[This message has been edited by Mike C2 (edited July 16, 2001).]

I'll tell ya what, Mike. If this is a prank, that's it... I can't take the pain on this board anymore... Tanya, the woman on this forum (GQII) who wanted to die (and I'm so sorry, but at this moment, her name escapes me)... now this... pranks? Jesus, help us if someone finds this funny.

<BR>Sad.... so sad.<p>[This message has been edited by SuzzieQ (edited July 16, 2001).]

Call me a cynic, but this post smelled of prankster from the very beginning. <P>Oh, and the one night stand story, with the lipstick message on the mirror,is an urban legend, one that's been all over the country.

First of all it is not a prank. I am the one that gave her this site to post and get help with. I am not going to disclose any of her private information, but to say she is a military spouse and where she is from and where she resides are 2 different things. Now She is on the way home to her family in Brewer as i type this. Her son is still in my area with family here and will be brought to her tomorrow. I do not have anymore information. I have been in and out of this place all day, but did not feel the need until now to post about this topic. <BR>Maine

Thank you for clarifying Maine. It is so sad.

Mainemade <P>Thanks for the post and clarification.<P>If she is a friend, please let her know that many people here are concerned about her and really do care as you can see by the posts on this thread and her original.<P>E<P>

MTHRRRRRRHBBRD. I am SO glad you can smell a CYNIC over the net. I hope Marie does not see that. First of all i will say i am gratful for all the wonderful support she has gotten from most of you. I do not think she will be posting anytime soon. I will pass on the amt of support when I talk toher or her family later. I dont expect her to reach home until later on this evening. <BR> This is HORRID because I know BOTH parties, just so you know, My greatest fear in my husbands affair has become the reality of one of the sweetest women I know. I have NO idea what to say to you . I am still pissed at the cynic comment. I will post when i know more information that is the best i can and will do for those of you honestly concerned, and for those that are not, post your cynic replies someplace else please.

Me again, <P>Yes, this is all too real and all too painful for us. But to comment to mthrrhbard, that account I gave was not a prank. It came from a workmate in Southern CA. It was her cousin, she was on the phone with me crying when it happened. It was about 8 years ago and he was about 25. I have not kept up on his condition lately but there was nothing funny when it was being told to me. <P>For those who practice this type of prank, shame on you. But for those in these truly trying situations, we should if able to extend our assistance.<P>As far as S&A, I speak to her at least every other day. Due to her location, she can not get on-line but she is always asking how everyone is doing and is very grateful to the group here. <P>Your efforts to help have not gone unappreciated. <P>L.<BR>