My intention is not to cause harm - yes pehaps I somhpw wnated some kind of validation or justfication to what I'm doing- But Geez, I never meant to make a fuzz or to ....BUT now letäs be real just for a sec!!!! - I'm talking from my own experiance - I thought in my silly head that you "BS" might want to know but then again you can go arouond in 2Never never" land. I'm just telling you that "SOME" NOT ALL but some MM never end contact - they tell thair W that they have but still they continue to see the OW - This hasd been my reallity for over 7 months since "D-Day" - His W is happy , eveyone is happy...It's such a fake!!!! <P>LIDSEN you guys - I didn't come here for any support - I just came here to tell you how it CAN be out there - Frankly I'm toooooo tired to fight with you - I just hope that you understand that "LOVE" is something that just happeneds - and YES you bhave a choice - ¨BUT WHO CAN REALLT RESIST PASSION????<P>Peace!!!!<P>HF

"Passion" is great and all that, but you'll bever be truly happy and fulfilled if you don't pursue deep, mature, and meaningful realtionships. I'm sorry you are so flippant about love and romance. I hope you find true happiness one day.

<B>I'm just telling you that "SOME" NOT ALL but some MM never end contact - they tell thair W that they have but still they continue to see the OW - This hasd been my reallity for over 7 months since "D-Day" - His W is happy , eveyone is happy...It's such a fake!!!! </B><P>Such telling words HF..."It's such a fake! ! ! !" Kind of like your 'relationship.'<P>Your reality bites, doesn't it? 'Cause who's NOT happy?<P>HumbleFish. Who wants the BS to know that WS is still in contact with OP? <P>Why? Cause YOU ARE NOT HAPPY. <P>All this passion and love...you should be happy...everyone else is....why not you??<P>Cali<P>------------------<BR><I>Live Impeccably In Your Word.<BR>Don't Take Anything Personally.<BR>Make No Assumptions.<BR>Do Your Best Always. </I>

Let her be.. she's going back to her knees in a few hours anyhow. She accomplished what she came here for.. to disrupt. <P>Dishonor - 1. Lack of honor; disgrace; ignominy; shame; reproach. 2. To deprive of honor; to disgrace; to bring reproach or shame on; to treat with indignity, or as unworthy in the sight of others; to stain the character of; to lessen the reputation of; as, the duelist dishonors himself to maintain his honor. 3. To violate the chastity of; to debauch. 5. To disgrace; shame; debase; degrade; lower; humble; humiliate; debauch; pollute.<P>

humblefish, I think you mean Provoking, Not provocitive.

HF...<P>You speak of manipulation and game play...<P>Let me ask you some simple questions (as a recovering WS):<P>Do you tell him you love him with all your heart?<BR>Do you tell him you need him in your life?<BR>Do you tell him he is everything you ever wanted?<BR>Do you ensure him that whatever needs he has you can fulfill?<BR>Do you *show* him how is wife no longer meets his needs?<BR>Do you support him in *everything* he says, feels, and does?<BR>Do you encourage him, when he says he doesnt know what to do, that you will always be there for him?<BR>Do you help him keep secrets about your A?<P>If the answer to any or all of these is true, you are manipulating him. He is still married, is he not? Then you are controlling his head. The bottom line is that if he cannot make the decision to leave his marriage, irregardless of having you in his life, then you are manipulating him. I am sorry that you see yourself as different, but you are not. I, too, understand the falling in love part, but you use it on a one way street, when it is convenient to your purpose.<P>Trueheart

Yep. some never end contact with the OW or with their wife...it's called having your cake and eating it too.<P>My MIL did not know of OW for meany years, meanwhile, she had his kids, house, his paycheck, vacations with him, etc. I don't know about their sex life, but given that she bought him gorgeuos silk PJs, I doubt it was dead. <P> My father-in-law kept both in his life for 15 years...each convinced he was "theirs". I do not have a real high opinion of him, BTW...<P>I am sorry you have let your life get to this point, HF.<P> <P>