So you are so in love with this man and it is so right?<P>Tell you what...you go to the following post and read where these M are after what YOU and others have done and are still doing, and tell me that your love is justified in what it has done to others....your situation included....<BR> <A HREF="http://www.marriagebuilders.com/forum/Forum37/HTML/011059.html" TARGET=_blank>http://www.marriagebuilders.com/forum/Forum37/HTML/011059.html</A> <P>after reading this, if you still feel you are doing the right thing, maybe you should consider a name change to CarelessFog or something...<P>If I sound angry right now, I guess I am. I wish you no harm, but what you are doing and saying is WRONG. (Notice I did not say what you are feeling!! You are entitled to feel love, and feeling it is not your fault. But not when you get it the way you are now..that is your fault!)<P>Trueheart<P>

Hi, just wanted to let you know your being paged on the other board!!<P><A HREF="http://www.marriagebuilders.com/forum/Forum31/HTML/003890.html" TARGET=_blank> <A HREF="http://www.marriagebuilders.com/forum/Forum31/HTML/003890.html" TARGET=_blank>http://www.marriagebuilders.com/forum/Forum31/HTML/003890.html</A> </A> <P>Admire your patience!<P>------------------<BR><B>Formerly Struggling27</B><BR>E-mail:struggling27@hotmail.com

Thanks Strugglefree!! Be there in a sec!!<P>I have to apologize for my angry outburst here! I have decided that when I read these kinds of posts, rather than respond the way I did, I am gonna let you guys handle it with a bit more dignity than I did....(Must be that damn football coach thing in me...Gimme a helmet and some pads!!.. )<P>Sorry for losin it...think I will stick to giving my perceptions from the WS standpoint and leave the *controlled* answers to you guys. I lost my patience there...please forgive. <P>For you HF...I hope you get what you deserve in this life.<P>Thanks gang for puttin up with my outburst!<P>True

If you haven't yet, read the end of the TO: Kam post. You'll see why HF is impossible to reason with right now. She needs to chill out and come back later. <P>I hope HF will come back and RE-READ all these posts. We really do like getting your insight on being the OW, HF, but only when you are being honest and ratinal with your emotions and communication.

Truehart<P>You Know - I'm kind of a lovwe of books - and I have read more then you know on "infidelity" - The thing is not to "know" but to "practice what you know" - The dat you can connect you mind and your hart then you are on the path to some kind pf freedom - but it's eqasier said then done <P><BR>PEACE !!!!!!

Dorkfish:<P>Reading and comprehending are two different things. Hard to read in the fog isn't it? Especially by lighthouse light. On ... read, read, read; [off] ... wait, wait, wait.<P>Trueheart: she is the one that needs the pads, if you know what I mean.<P>By the way, here is the link to the other MB ... Mavis Beacon <A HREF="http://www.mavisbeacon.com/" TARGET=_blank>http://www.mavisbeacon.com/</A> .<P>I'd fix you up with a date but Foster Brooks and Otis the Drunk are both dead. Hmmm, then again you like a cold stiff one, from what I gather.<P>Godspeed,<BR>STL<p>[This message has been edited by SeenTheLight (edited July 27, 2001).]

LMAO at Otis...she and he would look good together in Mayberry... <P>But he would have dumped her too, for a good stiff one...LOL!!

Trueheart, <P>She's pissing her life away and drinking herself into oblivion. Sad, sad, sad... What a waste. No wonder she can't think or type straight. <P>We really should just pray for HumbleFish and spend energy helping someone who really wants and needs our support and constructive input on preserving marriages. Really...

BTDT:<P>Yes, it is sad ... but so many members have reached out to her. To no result. At what point do we become her entertainment? At what point do we somehow enable her.<P>She needs professional help.<P>Godspeed,<BR>STL

Roger that STL!! To be proud that you are on a site where OW/OM feel safe and proud to go and talk about wrecking another persons life, and possibly the lives of children for sexual fantasies and *love* is pretty sad.<P>To come here and judge others that try and save the Marriages that they vowed to hold sacred shows just how shallow the OW is.<P>Trueheart

TrueHeart,<P>It does give an interesting look at the workings of a fogged mind and soul doesn’t it? Very scary.<P>Z<P>------------------<BR>He loves not who does not show love.<BR>----William Shakespeare

Hey guys,<P><B>Sad, sad, sad... What a waste. No wonder she can't think or type straight</B><P>I believe humblefish is from Norway or Sweden (and lives there.) When you can understand her language as well as she does english, then I think you can criticize her spelling.<P>------------------<BR>Prayers & God Bless!<BR>Chris<BR>For relationship info check out <A HREF="http://www.pcisys.net/~chriscal1/resources.html" TARGET=_blank>Marriage & Relationship Resources</A>

Chris:<P>That is what she implied/maintained in a previous post. Her use of colloquialisms and linguistic turns of phrase lead me to believe otherwise. Then again, perhaps I didn't learning anything about linguistics at DLAT Monterey. Except, perhaps, that the phonetic spelling mu Ah tha fuq it means "employees must wash hands" in Arabic.<P>There is sentence structure, too. In all cases, despite spelling errors, she does not relapse, even when drinking, into Nordic/Germanic sentence construction. Find that odd? I do. Too much time in military intelligence, I guess.<P>However, even giving her the benefit of the doubt: see her posts pre-drinking and post-drinking.<P>Godspeed,<BR>STL<p>[This message has been edited by SeenTheLight (edited July 28, 2001).]

Chris,<P>I doubt HF’s story of being raised and educated in a European country. She has played too many games here for me to take everything she says as gospel. One thing that leads me to believe this is that although she garbles/typos like crazy she uses American colloquialisms very easily. Most European school systems teach the Queen’s English, or at least something much closer to it then what HF uses here. <P>Her use of words and sentence structure makes her sound like she grew up in the United States. Though I attended an international high school in Italy I had many friends who attended the local schools in Italy and other European countries. Their English was impeccable but did not reflect the use of slang and slang’ish phraseology as HF does. <P>Just an observation<P>Z<BR><P>------------------<BR>He loves not who does not show love.<BR>----William Shakespeare

Has anyone considered the fact that it is summertime, school's out, and that the internet can be a major source of entertainment for unruly teenaged children?