I’m sorry for making such a mess of this evening. I told myself to keep away and I guess I did - but I am an OW and just reading your posts---I could not keep silent! - Stone me if it makes you feel better but If you want the ”truth” then know that you H is keying to you (not to everyone) but he is - No contact - Yea sure???!!!. I have NO intention in coming here just to make people miserable - pals give me a brake!!!!! - ‘I’m just telling you my side of the story as the OW. He send me a poem today that made me cry - it was so beautiful - NOW DO you really believe that I’m telling you this to flame you????? - NOOOOOOOOOOO - I’m writing this and I’m telling you this not only to help myself understand the MM bit for you to know how a MM works!!!! - I guess I’m not doing a very good job at it *SM;ILE* - But my intentions has never been and will never be hurtful. <P>I want to understand just as much as you do......<P>

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>I want to understand just as much as you do......<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>We know. You should be able to tell from our posts, where we explained and explained and expained, and tried to give you some understanding from our perspective. When you are back with us next time, take some time to read. You really need to read those H2Y posts. They are great. And if you will be nice to us (nice language, and respectful "tone") we will be glad to return the favor. Take care.<BR>

Guys, please just ignore her from now on. She posted on TOW (gloryb.com) bragging about how she had stirred up trouble here.<BR> <A HREF="http://www.gloryb.com/board/messages/11172.html" TARGET=_blank>http://www.gloryb.com/board/messages/11172.html</A> <P>She sure seemed to sober up fast. HF/REM I'm sorry but as far as I am concerned you no longer exist on MB. To come here for help is one thing, to try to stir trouble and cause wars is another. And you dare to call WS's or anyone else names. I don't think so. Oh forget it you aren't worth my time !

Amazing how when you lie, no matter where it is HF, you get caught!! One lie after another? See any pattern in your life? I am done speaking to HF. Let her and her MM *love* in whatever way they may. Seems gloating in the other board and here are a way of life?

Truly amazing...OW's are master liars and manipulators...here's a suggestion taken from another post to HF...from now on when she posts to us...let's post recipes and other stuff to each other....maybe if we truly ignore her and don't let her rattle our chains, she'll go away...<P>kinda like we need to treat our own OP's...like they don't exist....<BR>Cali<BR>

Dorkfish (referencing the suggested new user name you should use):<P>You are pathetic.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>> Geez I feel Like a living earth-quacke!!!! - Somebody please hold my hand.....<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>An earth quack, eh? Your typing skills degrade no matter where you post. How many snorts before your fingers got numb?<P>Yep, if it quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, it must be a duck. Or at least foul.<P>Unlike the others, I invite you to post here frequently. If everyone stopped to think about it, there is a very subtle message here: if all OPs are like you, it is no wonder 98% of affair-based relationships fail.<P>So keep posting and let everyone see how ignorant OPs can be (as if we didn't already know).<P>And don't hurt yourself on the roses. No need to get doubly pricked.<P>Oh, there is another MB you can check out: Mavis Beacon ... she teaches typing.<P>Godspeed,<BR>STL

STL... you're on a roll tonight... tee-hee<BR>

Faith,<P>I'm trying to hold him back but I don't know if I can.<P>lol<P>Z

Welcome Back SNL...so nice to see you are sharp tonite!!! <P>You always say what I am feeling so much more eloquently when I get in this mood...(must be that dang football coach side of me..I really can express myself well at time...LOL)<P>Dorkfish getting doubly pricked...what a visual...hehehe!!!<P>Trueheart

OH and as long as we are here...shouldn't we change Dorkfish's post name to <P>PIECE?!<P>

Tsk, tsk, tsk! HumbleFish, you are pissing your life away... I asked you how come but you never answered so, oh well. Guess you must agree with me, then.<P>If you want to make peace?! Then become a marriage builder, not a marriage basher. If you want to make peace, then please understand that you are in control of your own life and you are pissing it away by "loving" a married man so much that you "can't pull yourself away!"

Well hello - might I have a say in all the "Juding"???? . Or perhaps it's more FUN to talk about a person behind itäs back then to actually have the person invoved??? - You are a vreapy sneeky bunch you - shame on you!!!!!! - but then again youy are trying to build up your marraiges - no wonder you have crappy marriges when you talk **** about people you do not even know . I pitty tour SO - do you go around looking for gossip or can you confronnt a person you suspect of such? - <P>YEP I post at Gloryb - Why should I feel ashamed of it? - Yep I said that I messed up ay MB - and i fely like "home"/non judmental at gloryb" - So what's the big deal???? - Issues are issues - quetions are quetions - does it really matter what I said on what board???? . It's as stupied as I told one freind in real life and then I told another friend in real life that I like the first frienf but I fon'y ALWAYS agree with her opinions!!!<P>But I guess I can not ask you to understand that - or COULD i? - i HOPE i COULD!!!<P>PEACE<BR>HF

You have a very funny way of making peace with people. Laughing at them and playing them for fools will not work.<P>The big deal Humblefish is that you are wasting our time. As I suggested to before, you are here at MB to play with us. You see, I was right… so why did you chastise me for it? The thing about liars is that their game does eventually come to light.<P>Least you try to deny this here another one of your posts laughing at us. <BR> <A HREF="http://www.gloryb.com/board/messages/11190.html" TARGET=_blank>http://www.gloryb.com/board/messages/11190.html</A> <P>I bet you do feel at home on GloryB.com so go there and wallow in the sympathy they will give you.<P>Good luck in your life. I hope karma serves you well and you get ALL that you deserve, that others treat you as you are treating them. Perhaps one day you will get to feel for yourself the difference between the pain you feel now as the OW and the pain you will feel when your husband cheats on you. Then you can come back here and tell us your sad story. Or better yet, you can go to GloryB.com and tell it there. You say that you are in a lot of pain because of your affair? That does mean that karma has come your way already.<P>Z<BR><P>------------------<BR>He loves not who does not show love.<BR>----William Shakespeare

Dorkfish:<P>Hello there in foggyland ... how is it sneaking to post on a public forum? Unlike you who goes and brags on gloryb.com ... case of the pot calling the kettle black, if you ask me.<P>And we ARE confronting you, Dorkie. You just keep slipping off the hook and evade the issues. So, go off to gloryb.com and snuggle up to the rest of the school of foggyfish. It is the only place you will find sympathy (in the dictionary between $hit and syphillis) for your current stance: you damned sure won't find it here.<P>By the way, we are not "Juding" you ... but if by Juding you mean St. Jude and your problems, here is a relevant link: <A HREF="http://www.soberforever.com/guesthouse.cfm" TARGET=_blank>http://www.soberforever.com/guesthouse.cfm</A> .<P>Help, now there is that in abundance: if it is your honest desire to end the affair. It is obvious, however, that you, after all this time, are still in the fog. Repeat it: fog, fog, fog, fog, fog.<P>Just in case you missed it elsewhere, two useful links for you:<P>Al Anon chat: <A HREF="http://www.4-lane.com/supportchat/pages/alanonchat.html" TARGET=_blank>http://www.4-lane.com/supportchat/pages/alanonchat.html</A> ... where the drinks are not on the house.<P>Mavis Beacon Typing: <A HREF="http://www.mavisbeacon.com/" TARGET=_blank>http://www.mavisbeacon.com/</A> <BR>... by the way, Random House is a dictionary, not an alternative method of spelling Shoue.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>i fely like "home"/non judmental at gloryb" - So what's the big deal?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>You are at home at gloryb.com, Dorkie ... you are as much in the fog as all of them. What's the big deal: go get your jollies at gloryb, aquavit-breath (a·qua·vit [kw vt , ákw veet ] noun liquor flavored with caraway: a potato- or grain-based liquor flavored with caraway seeds, produced in Scandinavia [Late 19th century. Via Danish, Norwegian, Swedish aquavit from Latin aqua vitae (see aqua vitae ).] ... a definition on which you are, judging from your own admission for a propensity for alcohol, an expert).<P>This is a marriage building site. Its sole purpose is to enrich or salvage marriages. Now, I will be the first to admit that I don't moderate this site, but as far as many are concerned, you've worn out your welcome here. Come back when the fog lifts. Give our best to gloryb and the rest of the losers there. (Cheers, bottoms up. Now, there that might either be a toast or a sexual proposition.)<P>As for the definition of "stupied" ... see the definition posted in <A HREF="http://www.marriagebuilders.com/forum/Forum37/HTML/011097.html" TARGET=_blank>http://www.marriagebuilders.com/forum/Forum37/HTML/011097.html</A> .<P>Of course we don't agree with your opinions, Dorkie ... we are trying to save marriages, unlike you, who is wrecking one.<P>If you want answers, I would suggest Ask Jeeves <A HREF="http://www.ask.com/" TARGET=_blank>http://www.ask.com/</A> , because despite all our previous suggestions, care and concern, you have not grown one iota. Maybe he will have the answer. But I'm not sure he knows fogese.<P>Hmmm ... is that "point plank" you referenced (see above URL) laying around ... smack yourself in the head with it and hopefully wake up.<P>Godspeed,<BR>STL<BR>

STL<P>I just wanted to thank you for you insight and for you emapty. You have a loty of emapty I felt it in your last reply to me ...I'm so grateful to know that there are people out there that really care. Peolpe that care even for those that are kind of lost sometimes. People who care...Ahhh that is trully blissfull!!! Thank you STL!<P>May your God bless you!

Encarta Online Dictionary choked on "emapty" ... so had to do a little lexigraphic research:<P>em- prefix (used before m, b, or p) See en-; and<BR>apt [apt ] adjective <BR>1. very appropriate: especially suited to the circumstances;<BR>2. likely: often doing something and likely to do it again<BR>3. quick to learn: enthusiastic and quick to learn new things<BR>[14th century. Directly or via Old French from Latin aptus , past participle of apere "to fit, fasten, join."]<P>OK, I'll buy that.<P>STL<BR>

stl, Remind me to never get into a debate with you. I wouldn't stand a chance. And chess - I bet you are a good chess player. <P>or "dbtea" and "chsse" as HF would say. tee-hee

Faith:<P>As long as you don't refer to me as a master debater! (Say that fast three times!)<P>And yes, I love to lapy sechs.<P>LOL ...<P>Godspeed,<BR>STL

STL<P>Very impressive!!! - but you didn't get it did you you just parafrased a dictionary - cool but not there yet!<P>Now If you can get you head out of your (I was going to write it but I changed my mind *LOL*) mind - you might actually feel something????!!!!! - and then PERHAPS just perhaps, you might get a grasp of what I meant?<P>Best of luck!

Dorkfish:<P>If anyone suffers cranial-anal insertion, it is you. Perpetual darkness AND fog is a deadly combination.<P>As for EMPATHY ... that I have in abundance: but, sorry to say, I won't buy into your pity party any longer.<P>Get professional help, for the umpteenth time.<P>ump·teen [úmp tn , úm tn ] adjective <BR>very many: a large but unspecified number of (informal) <BR>[Early 20th century. Formed from umpty , a humorous formation after cardinal numbers; modeled on thirteen , fourteen , etc.]<BR>ump·teenth adjective<P>I hope you are printing these out, save you from buying a dictionary, like Modran Uhose.<P>Perhaps your previous post was tongue-in-cheek. Too much getting in the way of that being effective.<P>As for "getting it" ... why do you think my member name is SeenTheLight? I wasn't watching the lighthouse light go 'round, that's for sure.<P>See previous advice on what to do with the "pointy plank".<P>By the way, do you want your goat back? Seems I've got it.<P>Godspeed,<BR>STL