STL - Never did I reduse myself to "name calling" but if it makes you feel superior sure call me Dorkfish!!!! - I don't really care beacuse I have more empaty then you might think <P>Now for the board:<P>I’m sorry for making such a mess of this evening. I told myself to keep away and I guess I did - but I am an OW and just reading your posts---I could not keep silent! - Stone me if it makes you feel better but If you want the ”truth” then know that you H is keying to you (not to everyone) but he is - No contact - Yea sure???!!!. I have NO intention in coming here just to make people miserable - pals give me a brake!!!!! - ‘I’m just telling you my side of the story as the OW. He send me a poem today that made me cry - it was so beautiful - NOW DO you really believe that I’m telling you this to flame you????? - NOOOOOOOOOOO - I’m writing this and I’m telling you this not only to help myself understand the MM bit for you to know how a MM works!!!! - I guess I’m not doing a very good job at it *SM;ILE* - But my intentions has never been and will never be hurtful. <P>I want to understand just as much as you do......<P>STL - I will never chsnge my name and I will always remain ”humble” you do not know my perticular situation and SHAME SHAME on you for judiging me!!!! - Do you know mw do you know ny kife? - who are you to tell me anything - SHAME ON YOU STL! . And shame on ME for lashing out like I did to circumbstanses I’m not fully aware of! - But hey I can not lye and I will not be dishonnest - (if that (honesty) has any merrit on this board) - Yes we still see eqchother - Instead of groeing further apart we are growing closer - I know this is not for a MB boards but Geee I’m here you stupied people *SMILE’* - H0ow nant times do you get the oppertunity to ask someone ”point plank”? <P>I’m toooo tired to do this - I<BR>m not here to be vendictive ot hateful - I’m just so hoplessly inlove and I can not get out of it....Sorrry!!!!<BR>

I'm sure STL will be here shortly to respond - or not!<P>Read, dear. There's plenty of info in all these posts - honest feedback to your ranting and raving, and pleading for sympathy. Some good and some bad. Read for yourself, and quit writing so much. God gave you two ears and one mouth. Use them that way - listen and learn twice as much as you talk.

Here we go folks. We have to put a stop to this , she has posted her causing problems and then bragged about it on gloryb.com. <P>BAKED BASS <BR>1- 5 lb. bass or equivalent<BR>1 lg Onion, chopped<BR>1 Bell pepper, chopped<BR>1/2 Stick margarine<BR>2 cans Tomato sauce<BR>1 can Whole tomatoes<BR>juice of 1 lemon<BR>1 cup Cooking wine<BR>1/2 cup Green onions and parsley<BR>Dash Tabasco sauce<BR>Salt, pepper, garlic powder to taste<P>Sprinkle fish with lemon juice and season well, ahead of time, preferably overnight.<BR>Wilt onions, and bell pepper in margarine.<BR>Add tomato sauce and whole tomatoes and cook over medium heat for 45 minutes in uncovered pot.<BR>Add 2 cups cold water and seasoning to taste along with dash of Tabasco. <BR>Cook for 25 minutes over medium heat. <BR>Add wine and pour mixture over fish you have placed in a baking dish. <BR>Bake in 325°F oven for 40 minutes. <BR>Baste several times. <BR>Sprinkle with parsley and onion tops and serve, garnishing with slices of lemon. <BR>

Faith<P>No worries - I have no harch feelings towards STL I just have no respect for him that is all. I can not understand why he would lower himself into name calling just because I have a different opinon???? That to me is .....O well There has been enough "bad" words today!

OK, all ... excuse any typos in this post, as I am laughing so hard, tears are coming out of my eyes.<P>Dorkfish was a suggestion that seemed appropriate. Fishsticks, Fishcake, Rottenfish, Fishmarket ... all of those names are available, too.<P>Judging you? No, I will let you do that to yourself: however, in delusion, you are probably happy with what you see.<P>You could not keep silent. Well, we never said you resembled a mime. I would have responded in an MB-like fashion if there was hope that it just might (I emphasize <I>might</I>) sink in. How many posts have been made to help you, Dorkie? Bite the hand that feeds you long enough, and don't be surprised that when they pet you, they use a stick (not the one from the middle of the corndog, either).<P>Ah, yes, shame on me. Like you (oh, pretty please, don't judge me!), I just couldn't remain silent.<P>We've heard your pathetic MM story; we've gone out of our way to show you the "Harley manipulation" to get yourself out if it, and encouraged you to get help. (Pour yourself another drink there, Dorkie.)<P>Now to address some points you made:<P>Pals give you a brake, because everyone slows down to observe an accident.<P>What poem did he send that that made you cry, 50 Ways to Leave Your Lover?<P>A point plank is a euphamism for a sharp stick. Once again, beware of corndogs.<P>DEFINING A FISH: HUMBLE OR DORK?<P>hum·ble [húmb'l ] adjective (comparative hum·bler, superlative hum·blest) <BR>1. modest: modest and unassuming in attitude and behavior;<BR>2. respectful: feeling or showing respect and deference toward other people;<BR>3. lowly: relatively low in rank and without pretensions of humble origins;<BR>transitive verb (past hum·bled, past participle hum·bled, present participle hum·bling, 3rd person present singular hum·bles) <BR>1. make somebody feel less important: to make somebody feel less proud or convinced of his or her own importance;<BR>2. degrade: to lower somebody in rank or importance;<BR>[13th century. Via Old French (h)umble from Latin humilis "lowly" (source of English humiliate), from humus "earth"; the underlying idea is "close to the ground."]<BR>hum·ble·ness noun <BR>hum·bly adverb<P>So I guess, going back to the root stem of the word, you are often "close to the ground" when with the MM.<P>Now, as for Dork ...<P>dork [dawrk ] (plural dorks) noun <BR>1. an offensive term deliberately insulting somebody's physical appearance or social skills (slang insult) <BR>2. a taboo term for a penis (slang taboo) <BR>[Mid-20th century. Origin uncertain: perhaps a variant of dirk or an alteration of [censored]. The original sense was "penis."]<P>If the dork fits, wear it.<P>Now, as for the last part:<P>fish [fish ] noun (plural fish, fish·es) <BR>1. ZOOLOGY aquatic vertebrate with gills: any cold-blooded aquatic vertebrate animal that typically has jaws, fins, scales, a slender body, a two-chambered heart, and gills for providing oxygen to the blood (often used before a noun) a fish tank <BR>2. FOOD fish consumed as food: the flesh of any edible fish consumed as food, either cooked or raw (often used before a noun) fish soup <BR>3. somebody unusual: somebody who is unusual or regarded as strange (informal) an odd fish <BR>verb (past fished, past participle fished, present participle fish·ing, 3rd person present singular fish·es) <BR>1. intransitive verb catch fish: to use a rod, net, or some other method to bring fish out of the water<BR>2. transitive verb catch fish in a place: to try to get fish from a particular river, lake, or stream<BR>3. intransitive verb search: to feel around with the hands in order to find something (informal) <BR>[Old English fisc . Ultimately from an Indo-European word that is also the ancestor of English Pisces and porpoise.]<P>drink like a fish to habitually drink a lot of alcoholic liquor (informal) <P>have other fish to fry to have something else to do, usually something more interesting (informal) <P>like a fish out of water ill at ease in a situation<P>... now back to the rest of the story (apologies to Paul Harvey) ...<P>So, inadvertently, you define yourself.<P>Lye? Hmmm, perhaps we should let sleeping dogs lye then (but it burns when it gets in their eyes).<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>I will not be dishonnest<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I hate to break the news to you, Dorkie, but an affair, by its very character is dishonest. Ergo (fancy Latin word for "therefore" ... just thought I'd save you a trip ... or perhaps stumble ... to the dictionary), you are dishonest ... not only with the BS, but with yourself as well. Fog, fog, fog, fog. Keep repeating it to yourself.<P>As for you "loving" the MM ... to cite a song "What's love got to do with it"? It is still a deceitful, hurtful act. All the moreso because you refuse to confront your own dishonesty and deceitfulness.<P>None of us are "stupied" ... by which, I think you mean the past present participle of stupe:<P>stupe 1 [stoop ] (plural stupes) noun <BR>hot compress: a hot, damp, sometimes medicated, cloth or sponge applied in former times to the skin as a compress or a counterirritant to relieve pain<P>Hmmm ... then again, everyone who has "flamed" you perhaps qualifies as a counterirritant.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>I have more empaty then you might think<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Now here I will have to guess did you mean:<P>pate [payt ] (plural pates) noun <BR>head: the head, especially the top of the head (archaic or humorous) <BR>[14th century. Origin unknown.]<P>so I take it that empaty is the act of giving head? Or did you mean:<P>em·pa·thy [émpthee ] noun <BR>1. understanding of another's feelings: the ability to identify with and understand another person's feelings or difficulties<BR>2. attribution of feelings to an object: the transfer of your own feelings and emotions to an object such as a painting<BR>[Early 20th century. From Greek empatheia "affection, passion"; translation of German Einfühlung .]<P>I vote for the first choice, because you have been anything but empathetic on this site; your supposedly contrite posts regarding your OM and how you can't keep, away ... etc. Knowing full well that what you wrote was hurtful to many.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>do you know ny kife?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>kif [kif , keef ] or kef [kef , keef , kayf ] or kaif [kayf ] noun <BR>marijuana: marijuana, especially in North Africa<BR>[Early 19th century. From Arabic kayf , kef "pleasure."]<P>Never heard of NY kife ... must be some good stuff, judging from your posts.<P>Well, the hour grows late, and I am keeping you from your drinking. Bottoms up. (That was a toast, not a sexual proposition, by the way.)<P>Godspeed,<BR>STL

Dorkfish:<P>The "name calling" is completely highbrow. As for your respect, I'll pass, thanks.<P>Bozos_Deb:<P>Thanks for the recipe. At this rate, we will have one fine MB Cookbook.<P>Godspeed,<BR>STL

How about DumpFish? For dumping one's life in the toilet...<P>But it's okay, if we miss God, He can find us! There is still hope for HumbleFish, if she really wants to understand... but I doubt if she does.<P>She could leave the MM, she just doesn't want to. She's too weak-minded. She has given him control over her mind and he controls her with his lies and misguided ideas about what love is. One thing about cheaters that is extremely consistent is that they all LIE! She'll never understand marriage builders completely and we'll never understand her completely. We're bent on saving and preserving our marriages and she's bent on destroying marriage and bashing us and tries to wrap it all up nicely in a pity party. Gag.<P>Marriage is only a piece of paper, but so is a 20-dollar bill, HumbleFish, it's all according to one's values. You do not value marriage, so what's your point in getting yourself all stirred up about our views? (PLEASE! NO NEED TO ANSWER, just food for thought! Stop yourself and just think... Stop it already with the knee-jerk posts and think things through before you just start randomly banging on your keyboard.)

The funny thing is that when I read the posts to HF (REM) on gloryB.com, guess what they were telling her? To Plan B her MM!!!!! Ha! Manipulation?<P>Isn’t that exactly what we’ve been telling her? To have no contact with him. And if he does truly love her he will end his marriage honorably and then make her his priority.<P>lol<P>Z<P>------------------<BR>He loves not who does not show love.<BR>----William Shakespeare

hmmmm... yes, z, you are right! This is from my very first post to HF at <B>11:19AM</B> today:<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Either<BR>1. Tell his W.<BR>2. Plan B this man to force him to make a decision. Someone needs to, and it will only help you in the long run instead of playing this game. Tell him to decide once and for all, W or you. <P>He is hurting you sitting on the fence, just like our WS's are hurting us. He needs to make a decision. If you tell his W, she will help him decide. If you stand up for yourself, he will either make a choice, or go and find another OW,but at least you will out of the middle.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>yep. Plan B. That's the ticket.<P><p>[This message has been edited by Faith1 (edited July 27, 2001).]

Oh Gosh,<BR>I must be getting tired and I know I am emotionally worn out...but that was one of the funniest posts STL. Thanks, I needed a laugh.

ROTFLOL -<P>STL you are too much. Take 'em all on baby.<P>Zor - where do you find the time to take care of us on this board, and visit on gloryb?<P>You amaze me.<P>(((((((( hugs ))))))))))

Awwww dangit!!<BR>I couldnt get on line....I missed all the fun!! Way to go gang!! Its funny that she doesnt have alot of friends (or good spelling) on either of her sites. She seems an outcast no matter where she posts here!!<P>Thanks for keeping the sight clean of *dead fish*!!<P>Trueheart

Trueheart:<P>Dang! Wondered what had happened. Welcome back.<P>Godspeed,<BR>STL

Early morning fishing STL?? Got any nibbles or are the Mudfish not biting this am??<P>Trueheart

TH:<P>Dorkfish are bottom-feeders, I have heard.<P>Too much caffeine way too late, I guess. LOL.<P>Off to bed shortly, though.<P>Guess for Dorkfish you use a Net, eh?<P>Godspeed,<BR>STL

Just one little thing I have to say to HF. The ONLY MM you have ANY kind of EXPERIENCE with ARE those MM you are involved with. If your MM has decided to ride the fence with both you and his W then that is your stupidity for letting him. As for the rest of the MM/WS/ in here. DO not assume you know what THEY are all feeling and thinking, it will do nothing but make an [censored] out of you, OH wait, you did that well enough on your own.

<B>The ONLY MM you have ANY kind of EXPERIENCE with ARE those MM you are involved with</B><P>Uh, STL, HERE is the reason for the utter *contempt* DORKfish has for YOU!!!<P>YOU were MM, WH, et. al, and DORKfish cannot *MANIPULATE* you, and she's feeling powerless!!!<P>Ah, the light!! The glorious light!! The fog is lifting....<BR>