It's 1:15a.m. my time, and although I'm so tired... I just can't bring myself to get some sleep. I hate the thought of being in the bed alone again.. even though it's only for one night.

I'm here at 1:19 a.m., catching up on some reading and replying over on the "In Recovery" board where I spend most of my time. I thought I would come over here for a few minutes before signing off for the evening. My D is turning 5 tomorrow, so I still have stuff to organize for tomorrows b-day party. I haven't even finished the loot bags yet and then there is wrapping to do. I also need to be up before 7a.m. so that I can get groceries at the 8am opening of the supermarket. Nothing like getting everything for a party for seven children and their parents (party involves water and beach, so need lots of parental supervision) put together between 11pm and 10am immediately preceding the festivities!<P>Anyone out there want to label loot bags?<P>------------------<BR>Never give up. Never, never give up.<BR>~ Winston Churchill

Karen and Alberta,<P>Wanna swap stories? You all probably know all of mine, Karen I remember some of your but Alberta, you've been here a while. What brought you here to MB?<P>L.<BR>

Orchid:<P>In many ways, you could take my story and it's a lot of yours... at least some aspects were at around the same time. We both had police involvement with our H's, we both had miscarriages, we both found out about contact starting again with the OW.. all around the same time.<P>

Hey! I'm here too...<P>zen

OOOOHHHH!! I have a question for anyone who wants to answer it.... but I refuse to put it as a title ? b/c there may be too many newbies who would get the wrong impression.<P>Ok folks... what is the biggest LB you're actually PROUD of? In other words, have no regrets whatsoever about doing?<P>Mine is when I got the names and phone numbers of all of the other women, and called them up to warn them to get themselves checked for std's. Because I had an abnormal pap, and H had had unprotected sex. I was telling the truth. Although H always thought it was a lie to cause him trouble and grief. No lies, but trouble and grief to him.. great!

hey zen! how are you doing tonight? good to see you here!

I'm up late (1:30) waiting for my 15yo S to come home from a baseball game/concert with his GF and her family. W ran to bed first so I get the late night honors, sheeesh. <P>I don't think I fit in here since I never LB. (grin)<P>--Jeffers

My absolute favorite LB...one that I would repeat with NO regrets is calling OW and telling her that H and I still have sex...that I was clean of STD's...and that she had finally picked the wrong wife's husband...(three separate phone calls).<P><I>AND, OW's H and OW, if you are still trolling this site...we STILL do...sometimes a couple of times per night!</I><P>Cali

Orchid -<BR>I came to MB in July 2000 - Dday May 2000. Found the website in the back of a Harley book I had picked up at the library.<BR>H - met someone online - they met in person twice. Fell in love, yadda yadda yadda. After Dday contact continued for a couple of months and then....zip ...until MARCH when she phoned him up "out of the blue".<BR>They've had occasional contact since then - recent discovery. It is LD - we're in Calgary and she's in northern Minnesota.<P>OHHHHHHHHHHHHH - basically H and I doing well. Awesome sex life, good times together, etc. He STILL can't, won't say he loves me though. Very confusing, and frustrating.<P>I asked him, in light of the recent discovery, if he wanted to pursue a relationship with her and he said no.<P>accccccccccccccccckkkkkk.. on my own for a few days .I'm enjoying it.

Cali:<P>You GO GIRL!!

Alberta...almost a year and he hasn't said 'I love you?' Okay...at least that answers a question I was starting to wonder...<P>How long before WS says "I love you." I might start the post anyway...<P>Cali

Well, there are soo many!!!! I don't always view them as LBs but you know that an LB is different to different persons. <P>A well known LB would be the laundry bag incident. Someone told me of the toilet bowl incident. It think it went like this:<P>WS (w) lived with OM. H (bs) went over to take some info to his W. H had to use the bathroom and did so. While in the bathroom, H found OM's toothbrush and rinsed it out in the toilet bowl. With no regrets. <P>My laundry bag incident is with no regrets either. OW deserves more. <P>Another one? Maybe the LB incident where I sent an annynomus e-mail to H's secret e-mail address ow setup for H via hotmail, pretending to be an old 'friend' h had sex with...... then OW replied that the e-mail was threatening to have her killed because she was seeing H. The e-mail never even came close to saying anything like that. OW claimed her H saw the e-mail, scared my H, then threatened to have me arrested. Hm..... I told her to go ahead. Just one of her many threats. Hot mail closed that account due to the content of Ows response. By the way, OW and H did not know who sent that e-mail for about 11 days. Drove them nuts. Again no regrets. <P>Another one? Let's see, OW sent a picture of her and H having sex. This picture was attached to an e-mail sent to H. When he came home he attempted to trash this e-mail. I found it when he gave me his password (he forgot about that one), I sent it to hot mail as pornographic and hotmail immediately shut down her account (I did not request this, they did it on their own). Her acount had most of their e-mails saved there. Hot mail shut that account down due to the content of her messages. No regrets again.<P>L.<P><BR>

One year? That's awful. That must be so hard. <P>Alberta: do you still tell him you love him?<P>I know that it took over 2 months for me to dare say it to my H after he came home. I was so afraid. I didn't want to push it, and I didn't want to be let down by getting no response (I had enough of that in plan A, thank you very much).<P>For us, it took 2 days and one night apart for it to come out. I was away on a family reunion thingy with my dad and my kids, and I had called H the night we were away. I told him how much I loved him and missed him... and he said it right back! Let me tell you.. LOTS of SF happened upon returning home!

My H never stopped saying "I love you" even during the A, but the way he says it has changed. Now, it sometimes actually sounds like something more meaningful than "what's for breakfast?"<P>He insists he ever stopped loving me, just forgot how much and how special that love is. Hmm, I suppose that there is some link there to his having an A, but I think that mystery is really not solvable.<P>So, I continue with loot bags... far more tangible, far more fun!

Well...time for bed...it's only 11 pm or so, but Sunday is church day and we spent ALL day at the beach...and I have the sunburn to prove it...(yeah, I used a 40 SPF sunblock...I repeat...darn that Irish red-headed mother!)<P>Cali

good night Cali! Go get some aloe gel or spray for your burn. I'm fair too... I know all too well about sunburns (although thankfully I've only gotten sunstroke once.. back when I was in grade 6).<P>Karen

Man I love that toothbrush story!<P>My biggest LB should have been when I finally revealed to my W that I had had her followed, had hired an attorney, and was ready to sue her @$$ for adultery... But somehow, she almost seemed to respect me more after finding this out... Ah, fog...<P>I gotta tell you guys... I'm gonna get that OM somehow...

Zen, I just had to reply to you before I sign off...<P>Living well, being well is the BEST revenge...that OM has NOT and will NOT ruin your life is the best revenge...that YOU are getting BETTER and STRONGER is the best revenge...<P>I have had sooooooo many people comment on how I look (lost 40 lbs, colored hair, dress differently), how I act (calmer, more relaxed) and that I still have a sense of humor...that I know it will get back to OW sooner or later (I work at the middle school that feeds into the high school she works at...)<P>THAT IS MY REVENGE! My life, my outlook, my inner self is improving, (w/ or w/out H) will hers?<P>Cali

I've also got the continuation of the calling around thing.. but it's not an LB, b/c H doesn't know about it.. yet. I still haven't told him. One day I will.. but I'm still not ready to yet.<P>I pretended to be him on icq a few weeks ago. OW#3 wanted to know why H wasn't talking to her anymore. I played it really cool, had her doubting it was H for a bit, but convinced her it was... anyways... I told her that "Karen and I have broken out in a bad rash. It was true when she was calling around to beware of std's. She should go and get herself checked".<P>All lies.. I know.. BAD BAD BAD!! But it felt so GOOD GOOD GOOD knowing that she was crapping her pants!! LOL. Ahhhh... revenge is SWEET! I don't care what anyone says! LOL<P>Karen<BR>