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Reasons to be encouraged:<P>1. The wonderful and uplifting stories on here from people in recovery<P>2. My W hasn't admitted A, the reasons could be many:<P>a) she is protecting me (or thinks she is) from getting hurt<P>b) the A goes against her core values and beliefs, admitting it means she has betrayed these same values and beliefs that defined who she is and what she stood for <P>c) guilt <P>3. She hasn't left or filed for D (in spite of talking about it for months); Her actions (or inaction) speak louder than her words; Something is keeping her from filing<P>4. I was fortunate to meet someone on-line who helped educate me on affairs. This was prior to d-day or finding MB. He helped me understand that getting angry, yelling, crying, begging, pleading, blaming, manipulating, reasoning, etc. would not only make things worse. He helped me to look at myself and the problems in my marriage, take responsibility for my share of those problems and for helping create the conditions that made my W's affair possible. I was able to begin making changes in myself well before d-day.<P>Reasons to be discouraged:<P>1. My W hasn't admitted the A, which could mean she doesn't trust me enough to be honest or have enough faith in me to understand (I know, I used this above also!)<P>2. We are closer to D than recovery<BR> <BR>3. Contact with OM is continuing, to what degree or frequency, I don't know<P>4. W doesn't believe the changes I've made so far are real or permanent, thinks I'm just on my best behavior (or at least she won't admit to me that they are real)<P>5. Leaving (either of us) is not an option because of potential custody ramifications; Plan B or a legal separation are not options as long as we live together; D is not an option for me (not yet). I really have no options.<P>These are just some of the many thoughts going through my head lately. Comments welcome.<P>sad dad<p>[This message has been edited by sad dad (edited August 29, 2001).]

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very well said! Iam in the same boat as you, just take a look at my post. Dont know where Iam or where I'm going. Good Luck!

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will12,<P>Read your post. Yep, we're in the same boat. You seem to be several months ahead of me, except my W has shown no desire of reconciling. Seems like a lost cause at times, but she hasn't filed for some reason. I'm not holding her back and money is not the issue, so I don't know what she's waiting for. As I said, I have no options, but that's not so bad because I can't choose the wrong one. <P>sad dad

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Sad Dad,<P>I don't have any answers for you but the fact that she hasn't filed has to be positive. Just keep showing her that you can make the changes and that you want your marriage. Take care of you.

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I agree- nothing was worse than when I was eating Lean Cuisine and opened the front door and there was a process server cheerfully giving me divorce papers! Now THAT is traumatic!( cant even EAT lean cuisine anymore its such a trigger!) Have you approached your W about counseling even if its not about the A? As in better communication as the reason etc? Is she getting ANY good reasoning from her friends/relatives or has she cut them out of her life? lifeismessy

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lim,<P>To the best of my knowledge, she isn't saying much to her family at all. Except for two girlfriends who know about OM, I don't think she talks to anyone else about this.<P>sad dad


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