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#945035 09/07/01 04:16 PM
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Dear all,<P>as many of you I am going through a very tough time in my life. My marriage is broken and I feel like I have done everything I could do to fix it, but I have to watch how things seem to get worse. Still I love my wife a lot and hope very much, that one day we will walk the path of life together again. <P>I am a musician and music producer. In my pain and brokeness I have written a couple songs dealing with my situation. It helped me a lot to process the pain this way. I have now recorded those songs and you can download the mp3 files for free on <A HREF="http://www.mp3.com/michael_pluess" TARGET=_blank>www.mp3.com/michael_pluess</A> <P>Check out my music. I hope it does good to you. It is meant as an encouragement to hold on and to be faithful in spite, even when everything seems to fall apart.<P>peace be with you all<P>mike

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Very Cool, Mike!<P>I haven't downloaded anything yet, but will.<P>My H is also a musician, a guitar player, like yourself. He even made a couple of his own guitars, got the necks and bodies at Boogie Bodies, here in the Northwest.<P>Thank you for the tunes. It's very appealing that you wrote songs for your W. I hope she melts when she hears them.<P>God Bless,<BR>Jo

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Very beautiful. Thanks for sharing.<P>------------------<BR><I>Pain is a given, misery is optional.</I>

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up again!

#945039 09/08/01 08:25 AM
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Just listening to "Dreaming.." Very good music Mike. Your website it also awesome. I enjoyed reading your spiritual journey.<P>I pray that things get better for you soon.<P>Thanks for sharing your muic.

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Hi Mike,<P>I enjoyed the song, I will listen to rest later. Hm.... a thought, I'll play it while H is around..... <P>Thanks for the help!!! [Linked Image from marriagebuilders.com] The music is very soothing but the words are sad. I understand and appreciate it. Don't get me wrong, I know why you had the need to put these words down. You did a great job!!!<P>Mahalo and all the best on a successful release!<P>L.<BR>

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Mike,<P>My H is the lead singer and rythm guitar player for his band. I haven't downloaded your songs yet, I'm going to wait until H is home to let him listen. He has a CD out and writes his own music also. <P>------------------<BR>Dumplin <P>E-mail ajowens@dfa.state.ar.us

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Thanks for all your replys. When I wrote those songs I didn't have any commercial ambitions in my mind. I wrote them simply for myself and for my wife. But when I listened to them I realized how it did good to me, even though they are melancholic or even sad. I hope that hope is shining through the sadness of my songs. <P>Anyway, I have a lot of hope for my life. With or without my wife. Yet the pain is still here and doesn't seems to go away. Sometimes I think the pain is gone and I feel like I'm over it. Well, it is often then that I get reminded by the wounds in my heart of the pain. I believe one day I will be healed of all the pain, but it seems it will take quite a while. <BR>I believe the most effective way for the pain to heal is, when my wife returns and when we seriously work on our marriage. And I think I'm the one to heal the pain I caused in her heart. That's the idea of my song "come back to me". Over all I believe that God needs to heal my heart and hers too. He can heal anything and restore and I wouldn't know how to have hope without knowing God.<P>peace<P>Mike

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good morning!

#945044 09/11/01 01:55 AM
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Mike,<P>How are you doing?<P>L.

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Orchid,<P>I'm doing well, thank you. I sent a CD with the three songs to my wife. I didn't see her the last 4.5 months. She called me 2 months ago and that's all I heard from her. I didn't contact her either, as I'm in a kind of plan B. Well, after she received the CD she called me and she wants to see me. So I will meet her tomorrow evening. I don't know what to expect, but at least something's going on. The silence is sometimes a drag, because in my imagination all kinds of things are going on. <BR>My wife is somehow different than a lot of women. She can cut off contact very radical. She is proud enough to hide all her pain and suffering, even if she feels desperate. It's tough talking to her in this state, but with God's help it will work. She doesn't get any EN met by me and I think she is not playing with me. That's why I plan to win her back by love even in Plan B, but at the moment I don't really initiate anything. It's my kind of Plan B. My plan is changing all the time. It's not so simply that I could make a plan and stick to it through it all. I don't want to be manipulated by her and I don't want to manipulate her. It's a very delicate thing. <P>Well, so I will meet her. I have seen her three times this year and she is my wife. It's crazy. I trust that God will give me the selfcontrol, peace, love and wisdom I need for this meeting. I could imagine that it could be a very important moment in our marriage. On September 16 we will have our 6th anniversary. This must be tough on her as she gets reminded of the vow she sincerely made before God and me and all our friends.<P>I have no idea what to expect from this meeting. Somehow I have the impression it could be really good, but on the other hand I have been disappointed enough to know, that it could as well mean the end. Life is tough and often unfair, but you can't run and you can't hide in this world made up of lies. So I face the facts and face the pain and just go right through it. God is with me and if I fall he will help me stand up again.<P>peace to you<P>Michael<P>

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Update!!<P>My wife just sent a message, that it won't work for her tomorrow night. Well, I was ready for the adventure. Now at least the tension is gone for the moment. She will call again to appoint a new day/time. I will see.<P>You just never know. I guess with time I will get used a bit more to this constant uncertainty. <P>Mike


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