SnL,<BR>I was going to put this as a reply to Cali's thread, but it's really for you alone.<P>Hon, I heard you and believe you when you wrote about how people here assume you're not working on your M because of your postings, but I think you need to realize that all the good you may be going at home..all the non LB, meeting EN, POJA and just plain hanging in there is negated by the things you write simply because we all know that Thinker can get on here at any time and read them. See what I mean?<BR>I could be doing a bang up job at home, need a place to vent and I would be "safe" in terms of real spewing out some stuff, simply because SO couldn't get on the puter if his life depended on it. And my actions would still be effective, I would feel my deepest thoughts were supported and could go on to the next crisis. You can't..and while many of us really want to help you both whether you stay married or not...well, being here as a couple kinda of takes away your protection..see what I mean?<P>I know what you're thinking...emotional honesty..don't let the stuff pile up..cards on the table...but SnL, you run a business...what would happen if you told every one of your customers all the deep dark thoughts, questions and misgivings you had about them? Can you say "fries with that, sir?<P>So, you're in a hard place...you need to vent, you need to question...continuing in your marriage is a huge decision and you'd be a fool if you didn't. So, what do you do? I think you really need support, need to be totally honest with yourself, but not negate work accomplished at home. and Thinker needs that same privledge...<P>I don't have the answer to this...this is not a "get off the board unless you do it our way" thread..this is a simply recognizing a problem and looking for a workable solution.<P>By the way, my comment about courage was not specifically directed at you in Cali's thread, even though it was in reply to something you said.<P>So, SnL, and others who may be in the same situation..let's have a little POJA of our own. <BR>T